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I love Yugioh so much but everytime I try to teach a friend about the game it just ends up like this. So sad.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d disagree. I keep up with both MtG and YGO (MtG as a game I like and YGO as a horrified observer), and the two games are not even close to equivalent here.

In YGO’s one official format, the oft-quoted statistic is that games don’t usually last more than 3 turns - those 3 turns being half the length of how MtG usually measures turns - Starting Player, Non-Starting Player, Starting Player, game. The interaction relies on your opponent having the right disruptive tool to slow down your combo.

For MtG, the only formats that are really like that are Legacy and Vintage, formats that are generally incredibly expensive to play in paper and definitely not where new players are gonna start. Even Modern, the next oldest and thus powerful format, has games that typically last at absolute least 3 turns for each player (twice the YGO standard) and most of the time last much longer. Then Standard, where new players are expected to start, has so much less combo “I win the game now” potential specifically because it’s a bad feeling for new players and the creators don’t want the format to be that fast. I can’t find a great source on it, but winning a Standard game anytime before turn 5 is notable, and usually means your opponent didn’t do anything.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, it's 3 turns, but each turn lasts 10x as long as in Magic, so it evens out. Also, it's a pretty big exaggeration - the meme is "turn 3 dead", but you can usually last a couple more and hope to get some kind of out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

3 turns that are only so long because you're playing spider solitaire with yourself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And with hand traps those turn become "our turn" anyway, making a still super interactive game equivalent to 15 turns. At least, theoretically.