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Why YSK: Beehaw defederated from Lemmy.World and Sh.itjust.works effectively shadowbanning anyone from those instances. You will not be able to interact with their users or posts.

Edit: A lot of people are asking why Beehaw did this. I want to keep this post informational and not color it with my personal opinion. I am adding a link to the Beehaw announcement if you are interested in reading it, you can form your own views. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Anyone knows why this happened ? Hope admins dont ruin Lemmy for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

When there was an influx of users during the Reddit blackout, they said that they were getting lots of trolls and they couldn't keep up with the moderation. Lemmy.world and Sh.itjust.works had the most traffic and were letting people sign up without vetting so the Beehaw admins decided to defederate those communities.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Making it harder for people to sign up and interact with each other, during the most important week of the platform's existence, I hope they didn't take that lightly

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I don't understand your mentality here. What do the people hosting servers as a hobby owe former R3dd!t users to make their migration easier??? Seems entitled to think people who are literally paying out of their own pockets right now for people like us to talk to each other owe us even more. Geez.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The person you responded to said nothing about being "owed" anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think their point was, then? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That the defederation was a significant action?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess that's where our opinions differ. Seems like it should be just a blip when someone wants to take their ball and go home. Just choose another ball, man.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like it should be just a ...

But it wasn't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, but it can be. WE are literally the community builders here. Beehaw is not part of our community so just look and post at lemmy.world, or lemmy.ml, or lemmy.ca, or sh.itjust.works, or any other instance. To me, this is literally why this YSK post exists - to let people know to focus on conversations outside of that instance.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a hard action. Hopefully its temporary.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Beehaw has plans to refederate with sh.itjust.works, but no word in lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But since sh.itjust.works is federated with lemmy.world, if beehaw refederate with sh.itjust.works then lemmy world users will be able to interact with beehaw, (via sh.itjust.works) correct?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

No, nothing would change in regard to lemmy.world until they refederate with it as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But since sh.itjust.works is federated with lemmy.world, if beehaw refederate with sh.itjust.works then lemmy world users will be able to interact with beehaw, (via sh.itjust.works) correct?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

No, it's not transitive, it's like lemmy.world is blacklisted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No, Beehaw it's already Federated with a lot of other instances that are Federated with lemmy.World.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yep, they said they intend to federate again once they have access to better tools to help with the bots and stuff. Hopefully with the new influx of tons of people, that will also mean more people working on tools and apps to improve things.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Just a heads up, we love our admins around here, they are great. Beehaw defederated from people because they were afraid of being able to mod everything with the influx of users with limited mod tools available. They will likely refederate eventually. For now I unsubbed from all beehaw communities and dont miss anything. The cool thing is if you do end up on an instance with admins you don't like, there are like 10,000 other instances you can go to.

But the admins here are usually pretty transparent with everything going on. They are just some dude with a server in their closet. Not some cooperation that are making decisions with profit in mind. They are doing it for the community.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a heads up, we love our admins around here, they are great. Beehaw defederated from people because they were afraid of being able to mod everything with the influx of users with limited mod tools available. They will likely refederate eventually. For now I unsubbed from all beehaw communities and dont miss anything. The cool thing is if you do end up on an instance with admins you don't like, there are like 10,000 other instances you can go to.

But the admins here are usually pretty transparent with everything going on. They are just some dude with a server in their closet. Not some cooperation that are making decisions with profit in mind. They are doing it for the community.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

From what I understand, admins here are literally paying out of pocket AND volunteering their time to host us. Just as when I invite my friends over to my house for a BBQ, if one of them brings a friend that starts shitting in my pool, I tell them to GTFO and probably stop hosting BBQs for a while even though my friends who DIDN'T shit in my pool still end up suffering the consequences.

Thanks, current Fediverse admins!