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Hey! I’m currently on Fedora Workstation and I’m getting bored. Nothing in particular. I’ve heard about immutable distros and I’m thinking about Fedora Kinoite. The idea is interesting but idk if it’s worth it. CPU and GPU are AMD. Mostly used for gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m not a a current user of immutable distros, but I’m in the same boat as you. Interested in immutable os’s, running fedora workstation, getting bored.

I’ve been working on independent setups to see how I’d get customization working on an immutable distro. Some combination of containers seems like how I’d go. See this explanation.

For example, I’m running a wayland system, and RemoteApp/Rails on freerdp only works with X. Xwayland is currently broken on my system (installed as fedora 39 *beta). I require this for work. I installed distrobox with debian 12 bookworm, installed the required packages and it works like a charm.

On immutable OS’sI have been watching Vanilla OS for a while. I really like what I see. I’m just not sure what the security posture of it is.

The biggest thing holding me back is Gnome 45. It’s so good. Having an independent prioritized thread for mouse/keys makes it feel so smooth.

I’ve built hyprland and begun adding all the essential pieces to make it a viable replacement for Gnome. I’m not there yet, but once I figure out ad-hoc multi-monitor support with docks, I will be.

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[–] jaykay 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 points for vanillaOS. What’s the problem with their security? Also, coming from KDE, what’s that about gnome mouse thing you’re talking about? Just curious lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t have a particular problem with their security, I just don’t have a clear picture of what they’re about yet - and I don’t want to give the impression that I’ve investigated it and found everything’s in order.

Gnome’s mouse thing is about running the human input devices in a separate thread, prioritized over the rest of its spawned processes. The practical upshot is, if your system is chugging under the weight of too many programs, your input won’t be laggy

[–] jaykay 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough, thanks for honesty. The mouse thing sounds sick, although I have a pretty powerful setup 😜

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the input thread priority sounds cool and it would be nice on KDE as well, but if you have a faster computer than a potato, I'll guess you won't be needing that kind of "optimization".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You’d be surprised. I’ve got a mid-tier i7 laptop from 2017 and it munches through most productivity tasks.

It’s my i9 desktop that suffers when I’m running everything I want to have up. Between containers and compilers, VMs and videos, tabs and terminals, you can really put the hurt on a machine. I likely won’t be swapping until everyhing has adopted 45, or until I figure out how to make hyprland work the way I want it to