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[–] G020B 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, the Magic Eraser is just an algorithmic fill. It's not an actual generative ai. So it doesn't require so much compute power. If Pixel 8 had the new generative Magic Eraser on device, it would be either really bad or take minutes to process.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It is generative ai via ml. What are you talking about... If it wasn't then it proves even more my point. Why uploading it for computing?!

[–] G020B 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's obvious that you don't understand this topic at all. So it would be better to end this discussion. But I will try to explain. Old Magic Eraser: definitely not generative ai, because it doesn't "generate" anything - just completes the missing part with the other parts of the image. So it's not that resource heavy and can be processed on device. It doesn't require complex diffusion generative models. New Magic Eraser: uses actual generative ai, because it generates whole new objects that replace the part you want to erase. And that requires a lot of processing, because it needs large image generation models that currently can't be run on the device. Although, Pixel 8 could run some small image generation models, they would be far worse than the large models that Google runs on their servers. In the future, the technology will get better and more lightweight. So in a few years, it will be possible to run a good image gen models on device. But that's not the current focus of the industry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you not capable to read the press statement from Google itself? GOOGLE SAYS THEY COMPUTE MAGIC ERASER ENTIRLY ON G3.

Now they also upload the photos AFTER the process.

[–] G020B 2 points 10 months ago

I think we both misunderstood each other. I looked up the press release and they say that there were some generative improvements to Magic Eraser that run on device. But that's not in the "Magic Editor" UI I meant, when I was talking about the new features of Pixel 8. You were mad at Google because of the upload to the cloud. That happens ONLY if you use the Magic Editor that uses large models in their datacenters for best results. But if you use the normal Magic Eraser it will work on device and hence offline. Although it does use some generative AI now - I 100% guarantee you that it will be worse than the Magic Editor, which uses image models that are too powerful for the Tensor G3. So you were angry for nothing.