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Sarah Katz, 21, had a heart condition and was not aware of the drink’s caffeine content, which exceeded that of cans of Red Bull and Monster energy drinks combined, according to a legal filing

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All caffinated beverages should be required to disclose their caffeine content on the packaging.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You mean like how Panera Bread does?
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_auto,q_auto:eco,dpr_2.0/rockcms/2023-10/231017-panera-bread-charged-lemonade-al-1019-f1a04a.jpg

The Charged Lemonade was “offered side-by-side with all of Panera’s non-caffeinated and/or less caffeinated drinks” and was advertised as a “plant-based and clean” beverage that contained as much caffeine as the restaurant’s dark roast coffee, according to photos of both the menu and beverage dispensers in the store, which were included in the wrongful death lawsuit. https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/app/product/57f9b1aa54df4bd2c2eacca55efa1c96.html

Not to disagree with you, you're right, but I think they should also indicate how much is normal consumption. It's quite surprising this isn't something that's required on the nutritional label.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

they should also indicate how much is normal consumption

For real, this is the actual problem. How much does 390 mg of caffeine even mean to the average person? For reference, one of those 20 oz drinks are almost equivalent to 3 cups of regular black coffee.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If you have a heart condition that limits your caffeine intake, you had better know how much you can consume.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m pretty familiar with the mg amounts based on reading soda labels. That would be 11 glasses of Diet Pepsi, which does sound like a lot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of pepsi. Not a lot of coffee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it says right there 'as much caffeine as our coffee'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. 11 cans of Pepsi has about as much caffeine (412.5mg) as 2 medium hot coffees from Dunkin Donuts (210mg per 14oz).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100mg of caffeine for an 8oz cup of coffee is pretty widely known. I would argue it's up to the individual with the medical conditions to know exactly how much caffeine they are consuming vs how much is safe for them to consume.

After reading the article it makes it seem like she went to a physical location to get the drink, which has a placard on the dispenser stating exactly how much caffeine is in the drink. Shit, it even states she also got the drink a few days before she died so she had to have known it had a lot of caffeine in it. The only thing that makes sense here is I'm wondering if she ordered it for pickup and the online menu doesn't have all of this written out clearly. If that's the case then Panera needs to update that ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100mg of caffeine for an 8oz cup of coffee is pretty widely known

I wouldn't count on it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not know this, and have never met anyone who does

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I’m kind of confused by the “it should be labeled!” comments as to me, that is decently labeled. The descriptions say “coffee” and “guarana” for each one, and listing the amounts of caffeine is more information than you get for other drinks. It’s not too much to think that the customer (especially someone with a life threatening condition) would read the descriptions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have never been to a Panera, are drinks self serve?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Last time I got this drink it was self-serve, yeah. The drinks are in large labelled containers, not like a soda fountain with just a small logo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

In this case, there is a large sign on the dispenser that includes caffeine content in mg, as well as comparing it to their dark-roast coffee.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Some of us are careful about how much caffeine we ingest because we want it to work when we use it, and/or because we get real twitchy when overcaffeinated.