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Tech bros' attitude to female colleagues stuck in dark ages::Research sheds light on attitudes holding industry back

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

worst time of my life was when i was in computer science. i'm a guy but still - that hyper competitive shit is horrilbly toxic. letters on a computer don't need to be boot camp toughen up bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Where was that? I found compsci to be an extremely supportive environment where almost everyone was trying to help each other.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, I mostly remember trauma bonding with classmates at 3am working on a project due at 8am

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Me too. That’s exactly what I remember.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Electrical engineering major here, and it was very much the same. Very helpful supportive

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same here! Most people were very supportive and we commiserated a lot about our majors. And the same was the case for the entire engineering department.

The only anecdote I know about which is similar to the hyper-competitiveness in the top comment is from a friend who was a CS major in a different university but with a heavy entrepreneurship/business slant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There were a few hyper competitive people who were always trying to finish everything first to flex on everyone, they hated me because I finished projects earlier (I helped people that were having issues when I finished, they caught on and I got some snotty messages about being a try hard... I just had a lot of free time at work and the projects were easy to me). Along with a few of these in each class, I had some people that were just moochers that actually sucked and just copied other people and constantly did leetcode challenges or whatever, I ended up with 2 of them in my senior project and they did almost nothing even when asked.

That said, a very very large amount of the people I met were awesome supportive people, both in my comp sci classes and upper div math classes for my minor. We were remote for all but 1 semester of my degree and I lived an hour away from the university so I didn't end up making any lasting friends, but at least once a week I had study/help/hangout sessions with people I met in group projects, people they met, etc. A few people would show up to copy code and answers, but nearly everyone was great, and would pitch in to help others in the group if needed. There will always be snotty, lazy, and competitive people in every field, but they are (almost) always the extreme monority

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I fare even worse in blue collar type environments. YMMV depending on your upbringing and general tolerance, but a lot of the “playful banter” I witness is stuff that would have you expelled from student associations these days.

That’s not an endorsement of tech bros btw. They are toxic. The fact that other people are toxic in a different way does not exonerate them.