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Peertube's moment might come soon (feddit.de)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/5294605

Youtube, for so many years, was just too good. Yes, they changed the 5 star rating system to likes and dislikes and a few years later disabled dislikes altogether, but their algorithm mostly digs up interesting content and it just works for creators and viewers.

This might change soon. Their new strategy to disallow ad-blockers will frustrate a certain kind of viewer. Those who dislike surveillance and like open-source tech, those who use uBlock Origin and know why.

Just like a few years ago mastodon suddenly reached a certain kind of popularity, because twitter had their first big fuckup, maybe Peertube is next. It certainly is the most polished decentralized solution that doesn't use a blockchain. Creators or fans could easily host their own videos, fans can watch it, without ads.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 10 months ago (25 children)

PeerTube will not replace youtube. it cannot compete in either scale or creator compensation.

i don’t think people realize just how insane your infrastructure has to be to handle 30,000 hours of video being uploaded every hour.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (18 children)

Taking some simple napkin math, I have a 1min 1080p video downloaded from YT. It clocks in at 15MB.

So, Gamer's Nexus has 2.6k videos. (That's insane, btw, but fairly large channel, not even LTT size though).

Assuming just 1080p, and let's say about 10min average per video. (Some are less, some are 40+), that's 150MB per 10min video, and that means it's 390,000Mb (or 380.86GB) for their collection. Assuming I'm wrong and the average is even half of that, and the average GN video is only 5 minutes that's still 190GB. And that isn't counting 4k, or the multiple other formats to optimize streaming (720, 480, 360, misc bitrates, etc)

And that's just storage, not even taking into account compute! (Or egress, or transcriptions, or scaling, or..)

Really for something like Peertube to take off it will require each channel to spin up their own instance, which honestly is just another expense for them, one that Youtube does for them for free, plus Youtube offers to pay them. Which, would cut down on some of the chaff (only people who want to do it would do it), but yeah, I don't think it's going to replace YT at any point. Smaller channels can combine for sure, but there is definitely a threshold where it becomes extremely costly.

I'm all for the fediverse, but video streaming is freaking costly and expensive. There's definitely a reason youtube has a monopoly on it. Now this isn't to discourage, but more for anyone who may be thinking "yeah why doesn't peertube just replace it?)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

150MB per 10min video, and that means it's 390,000Mb (or 380.86TB) for their collection.

Your overall point is fair, but your math here is off by a factor of 1000 - it would be around 380 GB.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Oh damn, forgot GB. So stupid, good catch. Fixing it

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