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It has now emerged that after being informed that Safari was likely to fall under the DMA's regulations, Apple filed formal a response to the European Union claiming that Safari is, in fact, "three distinct web browsers." The company's claim is based on the argument that Safari for iOS, iPadOS, and macOS are entirely different and serve different purposes.

On example cited by Apple is Safari's sidebar feature on iPadOS and macOS, allowing users to see opened tabs, tab groups, bookmarks, and browsing history. Since this feature is unavailable in the version of Safari for iOS, Apple claimed that it is a distinctly different browser. The company added that each version of Safari serves different purposes for users depending on the device upon which it is accessed.

The European Commission went on to point out that Safari's functionality and underlying technologies are near-identical across platforms. The Commission even highlights Apple's own marketing materials for its Continuity feature, which appear to contradict the company's claims, touting the tag line "Same Safari. Different device." As a result, the Commission rejected Apple's claim and insists that "Safari qualifies as a single web browser, irrespective of the device through which that service is accessed."

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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe there is something I don't understand but is it possible to install and use macOS safari version on iOS? I don't understand how it can be a good / serious argument from Apple ???

I would think to be compliant with regulation you should effectively be able to install an alternative on your device? Which I believe is possible since there is a firefox on iOS. Even though as far as I know all browser on iOS are powered by the same underlying engine.

[โ€“] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apple does force all web browsers on their devices to use the safari engine. Which is what the lawsuit is about:

Apple is now obliged to ensure that Safari adheres to the DMA's requirements, such as by allowing non-WebKit-based browsers on iOS and iPadOS.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Is DMA good? I read due to DMA you have to connect the new PS5 the first time to use the blue ray disc

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

It was not a serious argument, it was a half assed hail Mary that the lawyers pulled off to shut up the overgrown toddlers that make up the higher management in big companies. Have you seen the tantrums they throw when someone tells them no?