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Ohio purged 26,000 voters days before abortion referendum deadline

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I don't get this. How is this democratic? I think it's already ridiculous you have to go through all that trouble just to be able to vote on a random work day, and now they remove people who are already eligible to vote? The fuck.

In my country (Europe) when you reach 18 years of age you receive a letter that you're obligated to vote whenever the next election rolls around. Elections are always on Sundays and it's very easy to give permission to someone else to vote for you in case you have to work. Voting also never takes more than half an hour.

How do you pretend to be a democratic republic and make it so discouraging to vote?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get this. How is this democratic?

It isn't. The Republicans have seen that the more people that vote, the more elections they lose. A healthy political party would use this fact to reexamine their views and the policies they support/oppose. (For example, reduce the anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and focus on budgetary conservatism.

The Republican party isn't a healthy political party, though. So instead of changing to reflect what the voters want, they are trying to change the voters. Since they can't force voters to support what they (the Republicans) want, the Republicans are trying to change WHO is a voter.

If you support what they want, then congratulations. You're a legitimate voter. If you oppose them, then you'll be stripped from the voting rolls and will have roadblocks erected to prevent you from getting your voting rights back.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t understand it either. What’s the purpose of making voting so difficult? Is it to keep the less fortunate and less abled from being able to have a voice in elections?

I’m in the US but my state does mail-in voting by default, so you get plenty of time to research and make your vote choices from the comfort of your own home. We also have automatic voter registration through our department of motor vehicles. I think either a system like your country has or my state has should be the standard across the US, but unfortunately it’s not.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

Voter disenfranchisement is a powerful weapon of the Republican party. It's one of the key reasons why much of the south is the way it is despite attempts otherwise to address it.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

The mistake you're making here is assuming that the Christofascists are acting in good faith. They're not, and never have been. The entire point is to keep the "wrong" sort (read: anyone who isn't one of them) from standing in the way of imposing their tyranny on everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You assume that the USA is a democracy. They is your mistake right there. The us is a failed democracy at best, never really was one at worst. It's all pretence and showmanship but in the end everything is rigged and corrupt as fuck

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I don't get this. How is this democratic?

Oh that's simple. It's not, nor is it supposed to be. Hope that clears things up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a legitimate need to purge voter rolls. But it's supposed to be done after elections, when people have time to respond and keep their registration if there was a mistake.

In the US voting is tied to states because of the electoral college. So if you move to another state you are supposed to register there and drop off the rolls in the state you came from.

Done correctly purges are of people who haven't voted in that state in the previous presidential election and any election since. This means you have to go years without voting to get purged.

Purging voter rolls right before a contentious ballots of course is not good. And leaves no confidence it was done in good faith

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

leaves no confidence it was done in good faith

Fun fact: if you write "good faith" on a piece of paper and bring it to a meeting of Republicans it will burst into flames.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went to one meeting of Republicans. They accused the nearby mountain town of stealing their water by having trees. Of note, that mountain town is surrounded by a national forest. I don't ever need to subject myself to that again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Here's all you need to understand and Republican arguments:

"In group: Good. Out group: Bad"

Anything else is just a justification for that conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

How do you pretend to be a democratic republic

This is the key word right here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ohio is a state, one of 50. Each is different with voting. Example: In Colorado one can just mail in their ballot or drop it off at ballot collection boxes scattered across the state that are under video surveillance, or vote traditionally on voting day if one wants.

Treat states like an EU country, basically. Also, Ohio sucks, in general.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL Europe is a country. Other than that I think all your points are unfortunately accurate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what I meant. A country in Europe. Do you need specifics? Try to figure it out through my post history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I hadn't read it that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Irony is extremely hard to convey in text. I wasn't trying to be malicious.