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"What's more frustrating for those working on SCP, and the wider Starfield modding community, is how difficult it is to work with Starfield's code without official modding tools and support. This isn't helped by the delayed mod tools from Bethesda, which the company says are coming at some point next year."

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't be surprised if mod tools never come at all.
If there's one thing I learned, it's that gaming companies will promise you anything to get on your good side. Take statements like these with the biggest grain of salt.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They'll definitely release the CK.

But it's not for the benefit of modders anymore. It's because of how they can monetize them like they did with Skyrim and Fallout's "Creation Club".

Get modders to make what's essentially some minor DLC for you and offer it at a "small price" or with a "Special Edition upgrade" while those same modders are actually making waaaaay better mods and releasing them for free on Nexus or wherever (this is basically the state of Skyrim AE; some very notable modders did some cool stuff for CC, but their other mods were way fucking beyond those in terms of quality).

[–] Cethin 4 points 9 months ago

I would argue the mods they don't directly make money from still increases their profits. People aren't still playing Skyrim for the Creation Club content, which is pretty much all garbage and actually makes the game worse.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True but Bugthesda has got to know that mods and modders are the backbone of the longevity of their games by now, right? Without mods their games tend to be unplayable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If that was the case, how have they been so successful on consoles?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Because people try to find ways to jailbreak consoles just for a fraction of the mods PC users get.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

That's a very good question. I completely gave up on them as a company specifically because of the abysmal quality of their games on console.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

their games have featured modding on both playstation and xbox in some capacity

but yes, its also nonsense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I mean, Skyrim SE and FO4 had some level of mod support even on consoles. That was and still is mostly unheard of otherwise.