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I remember back then people said it's because of the anonymity of the internet. By now it's pretty clear it must be human nature
I’m inclined to believe it’s the internet. You do have a lot of people who are definitely awful people and have come out of their shells some, but I guarantee that they were like that before and now you just hear them more because it’s accepted to just say what you want without consequences.
Most of these people probably wouldn’t say these things to others faces unless they were backed up by a huge crowd.
This is all anecdotal from my experiences though.
It's the anonymity. If everyone was allowed one account, using their real, verified name, these problems would not exist.
People have their real names and adresses posted to facebook and they still say the most awful things without a care.
Not to verified identity though. How many of those accounts are bots or bad faith actors at a troll farm somewhere in Russia?
Thats true but before I quit facebook i had to see my own family and friends post hateful content and these are real people unfortunately.
I also see them in real life, at one of my last jobs i was working with an actual nazi, he would go on and on about how hitler was right about the jews, and he would spout this crap to anyone who had to work at his table. (It was a carpentry job)
I used to believe it was the anonymity and im sure that contributes, but many people are fine with airing their hatred out for everyone to see.
Yeah but to have a platform, you used to have to have some credentials. Otherwise you were just a nut shouting bullshit from a milk crate at anyone that would listen.
In the real world, these idiots get failing grades and pinkslips.
In social media land, they can get thousands of millions of people to listen to their bullshit, and other dumb people mistake up votes, likes and retweet, for credibility.
When hiding behind anonymity, the rest of us can't expose these people as being uneducated nobodies.
Real people do post hate, though, at least in some capacity. I left Facebook over a decade ago and never went back because of all the insanely hateful shit some of my family posts. My wife's still on Facebook (marketing manager, she kinda has to be) and every once in a while she'll show me the stuff my family is still posting.
I mean, maybe my family is just particularly shitty?
Real people do post hate, though, at least in some capacity. I left Facebook over a decade ago and never went back because of all the insanely hateful shit some of my family posts. My wife's still on Facebook (marketing manager, she kinda has to be) and every once in a while she'll show me the stuff my family is still posting.
I mean, maybe my family is just particularly shitty?
Well, this is after years of hyper targeted propaganda and upvote validation.
I know these family members. Many of their opinions are the emotional, reactive opinions, I had when I was in elementary school and had learned of some new provocative fact. Like at one time it made sense to want to imprison every criminal and I'm sure I once said that my country should just bomb everyone else and rule the world.
It's not that they're shitty, it's just that they're emotional and uninformed. Deep inside, they've suppressed what they know is true about themselves: that they have no relevant expertise or education and don't know what they're talking about.
Upvote validation has convinced them that if other people share the same emotional, reactionary opinions, it must be valid. They didn't have their ideology honed by peer critique or professional experience.
They are unable to face their stupidity. This is why they have no limit to what evil they will accept from their political and thought leaders, blindly clinging to ideology they will never benefit from, such as climate denial, anti-labor, or tax cuts for the super rich.
If the truth were consciously revealed to them, they would decompensate. Their defense mechanisms literally prevent them from seeing what it in front of their face, it's cognitive dissonance. Sorry you lost family to capitalist propaganda.
Before social media, idiots knew they were idiots and they just went about things that were their business and left smarter people alone do what was best for them.