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Are you talking about people who critique capitalism and its bandaids from the left, or people who chose a collection of countries with red flags to simp for?
Everyone on hexbear and lemmygrad is already a communist, so they don't spend a lot of time trying to convince each other that communism is good and capitalism is bad, although they do post specific examples. It's mostly current events, venting, and shitposting. A lot of the serious discussion is either in the weekly news megathread or buried in the comments under some shitpost begging xi jinping to nuke the white house.
god I hope he does
But are they leftists?
He probably refers to the hexbear/Lemmygrad Members. Aka the latter
Every debate i have with people on lemmy eventually ends in them resorting to 4th grade insults towards me or just straight up throwing hissy fits.
Lemmy is full of children who think anarchy is really good and has no flaws but they cannot explain how societal flaws would be fixed by it. Anarchy is just an example.
I'd take an anarchist over people who think the opposite is better
And I'd rather talk to people with a developed frontal cortex. We both have our preferences.
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Edit: i saw a post another day on an .ml instance just like this I think calling libertarianism bad because it was never tried out in practice meanwhile I feel the need to say this conumimisim has been tried out tons of times and has failed miserably
Good examples of this is pol pots and his Khmer rouge and the failure of his regime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge?wprov=sfla1
Stalin and leninism with the failure of the ussr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism?wprov=sfla1
I don't believe in libertarianism although i do think some of its ideas can be used in practice to good success
but this is my personal opinion. But I think it's a bit hypocritical to call one political system bad while believing in one which has failed miserably time and time againGo touch grass.
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Communism is a trap for the simple minded idealists who are disillusioned with capitalism. In theory, it could be a utopia. However, it takes a few basic assumptions in order to work. The biggest one is that everyone participating in the system truly believes in it and no one tries to take advantage of it for personal gain. But it's far too easy for someone or a small group of people to seize power and then keep everyone else powerless to do anything about it. This has been the cause of the failure of all communist governments that I'm aware of.
On a smaller scale, communism works extremely well though. For example, in gaming guilds. Sharing resources, allowing everyone to specialize where they want without suffering from diversifying their skills or dumping play time into other areas can help everyone to advance more quickly. I put this into practice in ff14 with great success. Raid tiers release every 6 months when they also release new crafted gear which is the best for raid progression, but requires some new ingredients which are time locked but tradeable. So our raiders would contribute their ingredients to crafters and they would provide them with gear, and food. The arrangement required the raiders to continue contributing ingredients for 3 months which were evenly distributed among crafters, and they would then make items and profit from them. They would return 10% of profit (not revenue) to the guild bank which funded all kinds of things. Everyone got what they wanted.
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While I disagree with alot of this I think this is a very good nuanced take good on you. You bring some strong arguments.
Prehaps its just me but
In my personal opinioni wouldn't find people trustworthy with my money and resources especially in a gaming guild. I'm sure there have been many good gaming guilds although I'm sure there's alot of people out there to just take advantageThe big difference between it and real life is you can leave and move somewhere else without a major impact except maybe a tiny bit of time lost. In real life, people either don't have that option or they do and end up in poverty and having to work 100 hrs a week to make ends meet in their new home.
How would one take advantage of Communism for personal gain in a way that goes against Communism? Have you legitimately thought beyond pure vibes in your head?
How does one "easily seize power" in a democratically controlled system, moreso than a top-down oriented one like Capitalism?
Is that what I said? Do you think I'm talking about Vanguardism?
https://lemm.ee/comment/6253119
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Got it, just vibes and emotions, then.