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[–] Cethin 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So every book should not have any relationships, right? If indoctrination is bad and wrong, it's bad for everyone, right? No books should include heterosexual relationships, right? No books should discuss gender heteronormativity, right?

There's nothing wrong with being gay, or being trans-gendered. There's also nothing wrong with being straight or cis-gendered. There's also nothing wrong with talking about these things or anyone seeing them. If there is something wrong with one, it's wrong for the others too, unless one is somehow better than the others. If one is better than the others, please elaborate on your reasoning, and before you do understand many animals naturally are gay so an appeal to nature is not an acceptable argument.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

my friends male biegel humps the shit out of my leg every time I go over there. That dog is just horny and looking for anything breathing to hump, that does not make him gay. And you are right there's absolutely nothing wrong with being gay or trans (AFAIK). But as your culture has thought you to fully embrace LGBT people/culture into your life, mine has told me to not. I've certainly not embraced the extreme doctrines of my upbringing towards LGBT people, but I still steer my children towards a hetro cis worldview and try to minimize their exposure to anything LGBT, because I'm certain that it's not even slightly biological and it's how they're raised by a strong male role model or lack of.

[–] Cethin 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, dude. They're fucking gay. Your friend's beagle is horny, not gay. He doesn't even know that you're male or female most likely, because you're not the same species.

But as your culture has thought you to fully embrace LGBT people/culture into your life, mine has told me to not.

Nope. Wrong again. Mine told me it's wrong too. I just realized that's stupid. There's no right or wrong with any of it. Religion is stupid, because there's thousands of mutually exclusive religions. The odds of you being right are next to zero. Same for beliefs on gender. None of them are probably "correct" (as far as something can be correct on that) so everyone should just be as accepting as possible to other beliefs and let people be happy. There's nothing to be gained by being an asshole or restricting what other people are allowed to do.

Unless you can give me a reasoned argument why straight people are any more acceptable than others, you should stop trying to restrict what others can do. Straight people have pushed their rules on other people for far too long. (Nature is not an acceptable reason for the argument because, as I've pointed out, many animals are not straight naturally.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

but I still steer my children towards a hetro cis worldview and try to minimize their exposure to anything LGBT, because I'm certain that it's not even slightly biological and it's how they're raised by a strong male role model or lack of.

That's not how any of this works. You can steer a kid towards a cishet worldview all you want, but that won't make a kid any less LGBT.

And biology does play a role in determining a person's sexual orientation and gender identity. Being raised with a "strong male role model" isn't really a factor either, sunshine.