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First RCS now this, today has been wild

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Does this also mean Google will let me uninstall Chrome from my Android device? Or is this only about PC's?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I hope we will get there too. Be able to fully install and uninstall Google services.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I hope the ability to install whatever OS on your phone that you want will become mandated and the default for all cell phones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even if this was allowed. Surely most apps wont run anymore in the name of security

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Not really, most OS for phones are android based anyway. Having the choice of an ungoogled android is always a plus, much like many people just want an ungoogled chrome

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is unenforceable really. Android is a monolithic OS, it's very architecture would have to be reengineered, and then phone manufacturers would have to design their system drivers to be independent and distributable.

Windows is modular, this comes from the standard BIOS that came out of the bios wars in the 80's. Having a standard hardware interface enables this.

Phones don't have this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

No it's not, just mandate unlocked or user-unlockable bootloaders, the open source Android dev community will do the rest. There would be degoogled custom ROMs and full linux (eg Ubuntu touch, postmarketOS, etc.) ports for every reasonably popular device within months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can already do that if you buy a phone that is compatible with LineageOS or other open source ROMs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think their point was that all manufacturers should be forced to allow that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well that would be nice of course, but won't ever happen because manufacturers are all over the world and there's no global law or regulation that could enforce that as a requirement.

What I suggested is still the current best option consumers have.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Globally, it's impossible to force a company to do anything. But, with key markets forcing manufactures to comply, most companies decide to go the "well, i'll make it so for everyone then" route, as it can be cheaper in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's already possible either by using a custom ROM or by connecting to a PC and using adb.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We shouldn't have to rely on 3rd parties for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

ADB is very much 1st party.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Android debug bridge very 3rd party /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Chrome browser? I could uninstall that right away.