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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (45 children)

If Israel is under attack, does not have the resources to take these buildings with less collateral damage, and the international community will not send any military aid besides fucking bombs, then what is Israel supposed to do?

Answer: And write this down.

NOTHING.

Then give Palestinians equal rights, jobs, full citizenship. Treat them as brothers. Equals. Treating people like humans isn’t difficult if you try.

Feel free to reference this answer the next time you have that question.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Cute like a kid going "why can't everyone just be friends?"

Don't get me wrong, I wish this could work, I wish half of Israel weren't ready to kill all Arabs and vice versa.

But sadly hate blinds, if not most then a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It really is that easy. We choose our emotions. I’m not saying people shouldn’t defend themselves. But violence should be the last option, not the first. There can be a world where Jews and Palestinians coexist. But it has to be chosen, not mandated or forced.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but a big part of humanity does not see it that way.

Also the video is hilarious XD

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This is the most retarded possible take imaginable. Nobody in the region wants that either.

Hamas and their supporters, of which polling shows is a large majority in the strip right now, is openly calling for the murder of Jews.

You wouldn't have peace if you magically granted equal rights to the people who refuse to acknowledge the existence of the country that would be granting them those rights, you'd have millions of dead Jews.

You either don't want to understand that or you just want to see dead Jews.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The thing I hate most about Israel apologists is the way that, for them, history always starts with the latest action against the country, totally ignoring its egregious actions all the way back to when it was founded by genicidal terrorist groups, who then became its official military.

Gee, ya think that maybe the support for Hamas doesn’t stem from its anti-Jewish stance? Maybe there’s something else going on that perhaps the people might be reacting to? Also, who created Hamas?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think most Israel supporters start the clock in 1948... When 5 Arab Nations attacked them simultaneously. Israel has been under attack ever since, so the claim that it's the past 75 years is utterly bullshit. Even Hamas has said this has nothing to do with the conditions of the strip and is because they want to wipe out Israel entirely.... same thinking as day 1.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, as always, starting the clock with the blowback, casting Israel as the feckless victim, omitting the Nakba, and everything that happened in 1947 and earlier.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you're able to learn about the Nakba, then you're more than capable of learning about the hundreds of years of pogroms and attacks on Jews in the region. The list for the town of sfat is interesting.

But nah, ignore the 900,000 Jews forced out of their homes in the region and focus on the 200,000 Arabs. Sounds exactly like what we're seeing all around, the elimination of Jewish history of the region. Good thing the history is documented and ain't going anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I can learn that even the events in Sfat/Safed were part of an escalating cycle of recriminations. So as you helpfully point out, meeting violence with violence has been going on for hundreds of years, and has solved exactly nothing. As I have said in a separate comment chain, it will just continue to generate atrocity and pain until one of the sides—neither of which is righteous, let's be clear—decides to take responsibility for its past and starts the slow, complicated process of deescalation.

And if your gut reaction to that truth is, "they would never do that," well, go ahead, turn the crank once more, see how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. As long as Arabs hate Jews more than they love their children, this will sadly continue.

Thankfully some Arab Nations like the UAE, have learned this and have normalized relations, creating peace and prosperity for their people. Hopefully the Palestinians learn this lesson quickly, before Hamas sets everything back even farther.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

You can tell your Mom you learned something today. Be proud.

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