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Firefox users are reporting an 'artificial' load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it's part of a plan to make people who use adblockers "experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using."

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's that federated video service that carries a bunch of YouTube videos?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Video is hard because it requires a lot of space and bandwidth. We really need a storage and/or compression breakthrough.

We also need the internet providers to stop being so stingy with network speeds and bandwidth limits.

Imagine, 100 people trying to load a video from your single hard drive, it’s not fast enough for that. It’s not like a picture where the entire thing can be sent at once. So, it will require a decent tech upgrade across the board before that can be federated successfully.

A large creator could do something like that and invest money into it, but it will still really be controlled by a small group of people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have had constant advancement in compression. People just keep using it to make higher quality, higher resolution videos rather than actually reducing file sizes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I agree that compression has advanced steadily. I’m really referring to a break though. Something that gets 1080 videos down to 100mb.

But more realistically, I think storage is where we need to look. If I can get a 100tb ssd for not too much, then I can more realistically host a video library.

Bandwidth can be paid for, it’s fast enough. It’s just that the companies charge a ton for faster speeds.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The solution is real-time P2P bandwidth sharing. I guess peer tube does that. More watchers=more bandwidth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine, 100 people trying to load a video from your single hard drive, it’s not fast enough for that.

YouTube 1080p is 8-10 Mbit/s according to what I could find. That'd be 100-125 MByte/s for 100 people. I think my SSD is more than fast enough for that.

Even better, a 1 Gbps connection is also (just) enough to actually upload the video to those 100 people.

And with 100+ people watching, P2P distribution should work really well too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is one reason I’m excited for AV1. Being able to store high quality video in a fraction of the disk space is something that will bring being a competitor to YouTube much more viable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was going to play around with it, but it wasn’t part of the standard ffmpeg and I would need special build flags to use it.

That’s above my understanding, so I didn’t move forward.

I’ll have to check to see if it can be done at this time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Peertube, but it’s not great yet. I’ve not tried to use it for a few years, so maybe it’s gotten better.