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Pretty fucked up, but not surprising... Why do settlements come from uninvolved taxpayers, rather than the police "union"!?
Require officers to carry liability insurance like doctors
The legal fiction that is qualified immunity needs to be banned. It was just made up buy judges.
It's fine when used properly. When acting in good faith, officers, just like any company employee, should generally not be held liable.
However, if they are not acting in good faith, or their actions deviate from good practice, then much like a chemical company employee dumping something toxic out into the environment, then yes they should face personal civil and criminal liability.
For example, if there's an active shooter, and the police shoot and kill him, I think most people would agree that that's acceptable, and the family of the shooter should not have grounds to sue over the shooter's death.
If the police walk up and shoot your dog for no reason, that's unacceptable and they should absolutely face personal liability.
Per the article:
I hope the court disagrees, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Yeah but apparently the cops themselves usually get to decide if they acted in good faith.
Also: police should have to have insurance to carry firearms. If they're bad cops, that insurance cost should eventually exceed their pay.
Speed when you don't have to? That hurts your insurance. Found conducting illegal terry stop? Hurts insurance. Unnecessary discharge? Lol, your insurance just got expensive as fuck for the next 5 years. How bad do you wanna serve and protect? Minimum wage sound good?
I wonder if this would weight heavier on police out in the field vs behind a desk.
We charge people with gun crimes daily so this can't be true.
People sue the city and not the cop because laws protect the cop and prevent them from facing the civil consequences directly.
This is exactly the solution. I won't hold my breath though...
Not being able to breathe and police brutality? Name a more infamous combo...
It's really not a solution. It just means when the pension fund gets low, they get bailouts from government anyway.
You just made that shit up. This proposal hasn't even been put in place so how could anyone know for certain that would happen??
The federal government already did it with the teamsters. Social security exists to bailout seniors from poverty. There is no way that the government is just going to allow large amounts of people to just get fucked on retirement.
That gives every cop a financial motive to lie for each other, cover up incidents and silence witnesses.
When a psycho cop in the department shoots an innocent kid in the back, the other cops will have to decide either to plant a gun on him or have their their retirement funds drained by a lawsuit.
Wouldn't they just quit? Why not just suggest firing the whole lot of them if you're fine with replacing them?
You are incredibly optimistic. I would bet money they just start making deals with criminals like they used to.
The police are funded by taxpayers, so it doesn't matter if it's the city or the police that pay for it, you still foot the bill no matter what. The only solution where citizens don't lose is if cops are required to carry personal malpractice insurance, like doctors. IMO making cops personally liable for their murders is a good place to start.
it does matter though because if the money for paying for damages illegally caused by police comes out of their budget they'll at least feel that until the next year's budget kicks in. As-is, police are completely removed from any responsibility for their actions.
FWIW, these judgements are typically paid by the city's insurance, although that's also funded by the taxpayers. I don't know how department policies and the like affect the premiums, but I would really be interested in learning.
I feel like it'd be worse to have taxpayers care even less about what police are doing. That said, it's mind-blowing taxpayers don't seem to care as it is