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[–] Cethin 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I don't understand how PHEV is better for the vast majority of people. People just haven't used an electric car. Never having to go to a gas station is a nice bonus. Education is the issue.

The two biggest real issues are price and charging if you don't own a house. Apartment buildings should have a mandatory 1 charging port per apartment. They don't need to be fast chargers, but it needs to be something where you can plug in after work and you're good to go in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

And if I don't have an electric car I get a discount on my rent, right?

Right?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Unless charging stops sucking PHEV is a billion times easier. You just have wave away the primary reasons people don't want them

PHEV is the best of both worlds. The phev f150 makes infinite more sense than the lightning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The F150 doesn't make sense, period. Electric isn't going to fix these goddamn tanks for a grocery trip

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or just... Charge at home? How often are people driving more than 250 miles in a day?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago

I do it at least 5 times a year. Not to mention the significant population without access to dedicated charging.

[–] Cethin 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can plug your car into a regular wall outlet and get all the charge you need overnight. If you plug into dryer outlet, it's even faster. It doesn't necessarily require special equipment and you don't need to drive to some gas station to use their equipment to put liquid energy into your car. It's simple and convenient. I what way does charging suck?

The only time you might have an issue is a long road trip. You're probably fine with electric, but it does require slightly more planning. If you don't want to do that, for the few days you're doing thar trip just rent an ICE vehicle. It not that hard to handle. It's like people thinking they need a truck because they carry a few boards once every few years. Just ask someone for help or rent a uhaul or something. Why waste your money on that vehicle when you rarely use it for it's purpose? (Not saying you don't, but the vast majority of truck owners have never put anything into the bed of their truck.)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So so many people do not park indoors or near an outlet.

And I'll be damned (as I suspect others will be) if I'm going to spend thousands of dollars renting a car every time I take a trip.

It's far easier for most consumers to have 40-80 miles of range with a gas backup.

[–] Cethin 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever run an extension cord out to do a project outdoors? That's electricity, and it can charge your car battery. Pretty much anyone who isn't in an apartment can do it trivially. We do need solutions for people in apartments though, because that's a huge group and they're reliant on greedy landlords to decide to add access for them.

As for renting, assuming EV prices are reasonable, the savings from electric should pay for your rental, if it were really required. Likely your electric is fine but if you had to it's an option and it's not that bad.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago