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Just rage canceled Paramount+ after seeing the 1 minute of unstoppable ads before each episode.

Then they'll say people don't want to pay for content...ffs

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Surprised that no one here mentioned Pi-hole. It doesn't work for ads on all streaming apps, but pi-hole successfully removes all ads for my Paramount+ subscription.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've used Pi-Hole for years now and it's absolutely indispensable. It's one of those things where you kind of forget about it then you're over visiting someone's house without it and it's absolutely jarring to see ads cropping up all over the place where you're not used to seeing them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I know what you mean.

Browsing the Internet at work is a horrible experience. I'm actually shocked at the ad intrusion that I am usually saved from!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

What's hilarious to me is when friends visit and then always comment on how much nicer it is using their phones on my wifi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I rarely ever need a browser for work but damn I opened it the other day to search some stuff and nearly every single article was so covered in ads I couldn't figure out what I was supposed to be reading. 2 sides bars, an floating over head, an ad across the bottom, and some weird floating one that follows as you scroll. How are people not using ad blocks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do you mean with your phone on company wifi?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Company laptop which is pretty much hardened so no chance of installing anything that is unapproved. No idea how people survive without an adblock.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

AdGuard Home is better than PiHole since it supports DNS over HTTPS out-of-the-box, which prevents your ISP from inspecting and modifying your DNS requests/responses. The ISP can do that even if you're using a custom DNS server, since regular DNS is unencrypted and unauthenticated.

By default it uses Quad9 via DoH. There's an easy to use Docker container available for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same can be done with Pi-hole. Yes it isn’t ootb, but it is easy to do.

There are still challenges with doh and isp packet scanning. Even without clear text dns, your isp still knows where you go, if not from the lookups. They still inspect traffic and destinations and can make very detailed inferences, even without https inspection on DoH or other packets.

Pihole is fully for free. AdH seems to be the same for now, but it is a company running it, they want to make money. I would be a bit worried about this.

This also doesn’t stop devices from doing their own dns over https. Adguard home and pihole will try to block the DoH locators (canaries) but can’t actually stop a tv from connecting to a known ip if it wants to.

Don’t get me wrong. I highly recommend something, and adguard home is nice, but I’m not convinced by its the right long term solution nor does either solution provide the sum total.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same can be done with Pi-hole. Yes it isn’t ootb, but it is easy to do.

I'm surprised they don't use it by default though. People usually use solutions like PiHole and AdGuard Home because they want to configure it via a UI rather than at the command line, so needing to do extra manual command-line steps to get DoH working with PiHole isn't ideal.

Pihole is fully for free. AdH seems to be the same for now, but it is a company running it, they want to make money. I would be a bit worried about this.

AdGuard Home is licensed under GNU GPL. They can't relicense it unless they get permission from everyone that's contributed code (and if anyone disagrees, their parts must be deleted or rewritten).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Code yes, but the information, lists, and capabilities beyond that no.

I do think it’s a low risk, but it is not zero.

They could also do some nefarious stuff if they get bought out.

Don’t get me wrong I hope they last and I’m just plain wrong, but pihole works great and is a bit more pure.

About ui/ux, you are one hundred percent right. People want and demand simple. Single click install and setup is what is really needed and pihole loses resoundingly in that, especially if combined with encrypted dns request forwarding.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really want to be able to read this and know wtf it means. I have so much skill to up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

DNS is like a big phone book telling you that navigating to "google.com" = IP address 75.209.123.456, for example. Your ISP can see these requests and add information to them like ads. Using AdGuard DNS encrypts these requests so they can't be modified.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

So does unsubbing and just nicking the bits you want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

But then they still get rewarded with your money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Controld.com also works of you don't want to host it yourself