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Save money with this one simple trick: Don’t Tip
This message was brought to you from britain, where tipping is rare, and definitely not to delivery drivers
Tipping is charity to employees because employers are underpaying
That doesn’t work here in the U.S., as tipping is built into the business model of gig delivery services like DoorDash. The base payment to the delivery driver doesn’t even cover their costs, and it’s the tip that provides the incentive to make a delivery through the app. With no tip, it’s likely that nobody will pick up your order and deliver it.
Then people should stop working for these companies until the business model changes.
A bad business model shouldn’t be supported by customer charity to employees
Agreed, but all that I can do is refuse to participate. I can't change the fact that the U.S. is a late-stage capitalist hellscape that makes this kind of exploitation palatable to many people.
If every employee in the US who got treated like shit by their employer quit then there would be chaos
That's why you do it. That right there is the point.
Ironically, doordash had "you don't need to tip, we charge the fee to pay a living wage!" as it's original way to differentiate itself from you having The Pizza guy deliver.
Back in beta there was no tip option.
I stopped using them when they started to have separate tips for the in house staff and the driver, plus a 20% fee. Turns out your can pick up your own hot food faster for much less money.
And that is in fact the point of not tipping.
It would be wonderful to change tipping culture but they make no money otherwise thanks to laws over here.
Although I don't think you meant this in a way that favors corporations, I still think the next bit is important to add:
Businesses have lobbied against paying their workers living wages so you HAVE to keep subsidizing their employees for them
Actually, the law states that if your wage + tips doesn't equal standard minimum wage, your employer must make up the difference. In practice, this is just used to identify and fire underperformers. But if everyone stopped tipping, the company would be forced to pay them full wages and eventually it would just be worked back into the system. Tipping is absolutely not necessary.
Places around me on Just Eat also often don't have a delivery charge over a certain amount, so the order cost becomes alright if there's a group of you.
Y’all don’t tip delivery either?
We don't tip people for just doing their jobs.
Ah but employers do actually pay them right? I’ve done Uber eats previously and if I don’t get tipped I get anywhere between 2-6 dollars for up to 45 minutes of work between getting to the restaurant, grabbing the food, and driving to the user.
At that point what's the point of doing it? I can't imagine that even pays for the petrol
Fuck that, they are out in the weather so I don’t have to be.
Now, if you are just handing me a coffee you can fuck right off
They don’t have to accept the delivery in the first place. They choose to do so
I don’t see how our statements are mutually exclusive at all
Not when most the above add a "delivery fee" AND a "convience" fee on top of taxes and expected tip. One charge would be iffy but ok. Two charges AND A TIP is just robbery.
That convenience/handling charge is one of the reasons I never order delivery.
Why would I tip someone when they get paid?