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[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (11 children)

That's because the COBOL OGs are retired/ing and the industry has been training young people telling them "yeah, sorry, this is all we can pay you". Here in Europe, they'll take unemployed people from a different industry, put them on a training course, and bang! you've got a grateful new dev who doesn't know how much they are worth.
You just gotta keep spreading the message. I keep happily sharing my salary, especially with younger, less experienced devs, so we can all win better.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

programmers desperately need to unionize

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For real. Even just talking to your fellow coding monkeys helps. It's ironic that for example here in France, despite all our workers rights and revolutionary tradition, speaking about your salary is still a social faux-pas. And who benefits? Certainly not us.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I'd understanding actively pressuring someone to share their salary being a faux-pas. Admittedly, just sharing your own may make some people feel pressured to share theirs out of reciprocity, but just sharing your own salary generates nowhere near the same amount of pressure as outright telling someone "share your salary or you're a bad person on the side of The Man!"

I hope the amount of people sharing their salary increases and talking about it becomes normalized.

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