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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I doubt it's that big of a difference. If they have the tech to materialize full fledged humanoids regularly, millions of times a day, I'd think they'd also have the tech to make replicated food taste good.

But sure, I can see it being marginally better. But not enough to mean money is still in use.

It might be more of a "tomatoes I grew myself" type of thing for most cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I always saw the "real food is better" attitude exists as either a hipster thing or simply because recipe they prefer just doesnt exist in the database. In TNG we see people from the past try repilcated food and absolutely love it.

So (hipsters aside) a home cook would also be more likely to have some minor variance in their meal while the replicated version would be identical on each plate every single time. I imagine the heterogeneity may be part of the appeal of human prepared meals. The replicator also may have grandma's beloved secret recipe, but not your grandma's secret recipe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is true, but also it's implied in technobabble that replicators operate on a lower "molecular" resolution whereas transporters operate on a quantum scale. I rationalize this as a space saving measure; when you're transporting living organisms, you need perfect precision, and thus a full pattern buffer worth of resolution. This is clearly expensive to store, so much so that it decays over time unless you do something tricky.

Replicators use a lower resolution scan, as you can just reassemble protein molecules into the right shape most of the time. Eddington complains about this issue. (The non-canon TNG technical manual mentions tanks full of protein sludge used for replicators.) Now, is this actually detectable by a human palate? Eh, maybe.

I imagine if you were to beam a plate of non-replicated food though, the full flavor profile wouldn't be lost. It's specifically the low resolution of the replicator tech.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I haven't heard that take before, which is actually a decent workaround for the "why can't we replicate living beings?" question.

I doubt it would be detectable though. Because you'd have to be able to tell the difference between replicated molecules, and molecules that were transported, with only differences being individual atoms and subatomic particles. Neither of which I'd think somebody capable of discerning. Maybe it's a bit if a placebo thing?

Or maybe it would be a "pure water has no taste" sort of thing, where replicators make things too pure, to the point where some consider it bland. A real tomato grew in dirt and still has at least some, and the soil effects it's taste, whereas the same isn't true for replicated foods.

There also may be some degree of intentionally making an excuse. Lots of people love gardening, and in a world with effectively infinite, free food, your hobby seems more valuable if you have an excuse that your home grown real food & liquor tastes better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They say it's detectable all the time, though!

This isn't a random, one-off comment - in every series, it's mentioned over and over again how much better non-replicated food is. And getting better/ upgraded food patterns, and so on and so forth.

Hell, it even took Picard a while to get his tea made right.

Now that said, it's mostly a software issue, not a hardware issue.

But it isn't a placebo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it can be solved through software/programming the item correctly, then it sounds like it isn't an issue of replicator resolution.

I'm not saying it's just a placebo. I think it might be a part of it though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever actually seen star trek?

it isn't a placebo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, I've seen all of the main series minus some of the latest seasons from the new shows.