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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/494473

Compared against the predominant incumbent social media platforms, the fediverse is very small.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How? XMPP still works anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah it works so I guess by that metric it's not dead

Of course, silly me

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

i use it. conversations is a p good android app and it's in the f-droid repo. disroot runs an xmpp service and if you're cool, they'll give you an account.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, what do you really mean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the person you asked, but I've heard an argument that goes like this: Evil Company will "embrace" something, then "extend" it in a way that only works with Evil Company's product, then "extinguish" that thing by making Evil Company's approach incompatible with it. A discussion is provided here: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but I don't know if that really applies to XMPP. Google turned on XMPP federation for seven years and then turned it off. The article basically admits that it's counterfactual to say that XMPP would have wider adoption or be more developed today if Google never did that.

I think a more significant concern would be if Meta hires away Fediverse developers, but that is separate from them just turning on federation.