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While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I would love one of it wasn't so big. I'm sick of big phones.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This. I just ordered an S23, just because it's pretty much the smallest phone you can get (apart from the zenfone, which has a worse update policy).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Got a Zenphone 9 because I don't really care about wireless charging. The hardware is great, but the software has it's problems sometimes, like some missing QoL features. On the upside: Not nearly as much bloatware as other phones, especially Samsung ones.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To me I'd still say the ZenFone isn't a small phone. Not only is it bigger than my current phone (pixel 3) its also bigger than some phones in the 2010s that were lauded for their large screens. We literally have no mainstream small phones, what we call small now are just smaller than the ginormous ones that have been normalised.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Samsung basically has a duplicate app installed for each stock Google app. And I think short of disabling it via adb, there is no option. But Samsung has really turned around and has a relatively good update policy in place. If not the Pixel, then Samsung is okay for me. I had love to have the Fairphone but it seems like they sell in limited markets only worldwide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I never buy phones without bootloader unlocking capability for that reason

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm still using a S10e, seriously considering buying another - it still suits my needs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I'm writing this on an s10e but the battery really isn't that good anymore and the lack of security updates doesn't feel good either. The current s series phones are roughly the same size as the e though, so I hope it'll be okay.

That said, even the e is a bit too large for my taste. The top left corner is pretty much out of reach without adjusting your grip, so about half an inch less of screen would be preferable imho. Samsung's one handed mode is much better than the android default though, which kind of makes up for it - and there's just nothing smaller available.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Agreed, I happened to just make this mockup chronicling my journey through screen sizes. I loved the HTC One m7, the pixel 2 despite being a bit larger was still comfortable because it still has a "chin" at the bottom. I thought going to the pixel 5 would be fine and I chose it because it's within ~1mm of the same body dimensions, but I forgot to account for the screen going all the way to the top/bottom - trying to press the back button at the bottom of the screen with 1 hand is so much more of a stretch and it sometimes makes my hand sore. Given that I've had the P5 for a while and my hand still hasn't adjusted I just can't go to a bigger phone, especially since the P5's ~~increased height over the 2~~ lower screen bottom compared to the P2 makes it want to flip backwards out of my hand when I'm trying to reach down to the back button. At a minimum I need my next phone to be same or smaller than the P5.

(Comparison: https://i.imgur.com/gAc306o.png )

That said, I get that FP wants to make a repairable phone that appeals to the masses, and it might hurt that mission to cater to a specific crowd instead of competing with the veritable hand-tablets that other companies are producing. I just hope that they grow large enough to be able to make a "Luddite" version though with a non-cramp-inducing size and a headphone jack. I don't care either way about headphone jacks but I feel like there's a lot of overlap between the crowds that want smaller phones and people who want headphone jacks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Agree, I want something that fits in my pocket and that I don't have to perform hand gymnastics to use.