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There are legitimately people here arguing that just because you don't understand the language, you probably aren't a fascist for liking clearly fascist music that you have to work hard to find, especially if you don't natively speak the language.
Maybe they just vibe with hate and the fascist imagery is a comforting reminder of their favorite message boards? Just because the only music you listen too is made for Nazis doesn't make you a Nazi. You being a Nazi means you enjoy Nazi music. Not exactly causation but nearly a one to one correlation. I don't know what I meant by this. I started with a joke and now I'm just arguing logic semantics. This is a mess. I'm sorry, hitting post anyway though.
Hahaha, I gotchu. On an individual basis, it's totally possible that a Japanese person may genuinely stumble upon it and like it purely for the tunes. At an aggregate, it becomes increasingly obvious that there are tendencies that lead people out of traditionally popular Japanese music and into obscure northern European Nazi music.
Come back after you type "Finnish metal" into youtube search bar, find a pretty good melodic powermetal song. It's stuck in your head for days, so you download an entire album. You start to hum along as you listen, but it's not enough. You find the lyrics in a language you never have spoken before, so you learn it phonetically. You share your discovery with friends and family. It's fun AND educational! But that's not enough, you often wonder what it all means, so one day as you listen, you open a new tab, type in "Terasbetoni - Orjatar, translated lyrics" to find...
This
Slave woman
Hard was the work in the midst of woods, Wearing the axe and play on the shoulders, heart burning with desire, Yearning will make you go through the snow, Knowledge of what shall become keeps you strong!
Slave woman! Obey my quest, Know your place! Slave woman! Work my will, And you shall be rewarded! Divinely rewarded!
There shall be battles in the fields of death. On stake is the life in disastrous times! Man with an ardor shall get what he deserves, So please and serve, or he shall punish you!
Slave woman! Obey my quest, Know your place! Slave woman! Work my will, And you shall be rewarded! Divinely rewarded!
Slave woman! Come to me, And work your magic! Slave woman! Heed my words, For that is your law!
Slave woman! Obey my quest, Know your place! Slave woman! Work my will, And you shall be rewarded! Divinely rewarded!
Individually? Possible, totally. In aggregate? It's not a secret that Japan has an uncomfortably large fascist subculture. Putting 2 and 2 together as an aggregate makes sense.
Of course, I wouldn't go up and assume a random Japanese person listening to fascist northern European metal is necessarily a fascist, but if they also had the rising sun flag of Imperial Japan on their car, or hanging in their room? Absolutely.
Totally. The subtlety is, thankfully, not a virtue most fascists are known for.
Manowar had that one song titled 'Pleasure slave', if memory serves. No idea if it was a serious song or not. Those were some weird times for music.
And had the the best bands :)
Fuck nazis, but I have a friend who got into a lot of Russian techno artists because he watched livestreams of Russian women on OnlyFans playing that music during shows. He didn't find nazi music (to my knowledge), but he did have to invent a cover story for his Ukrainian wife for how he discovered the artists.
However, if you can recognize the iconography in the bands' merch and still listen, I don't care how lit the music sounds, fuck you for listening.
On an individual level, this is possible. At an aggregate? No.
First you just Luke the music, soon you're hanging out with other fans, and suddenly you discover one day that you have become a #nazi.