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Are trams that good (genuine question)? (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Sometimes when watching videos on effective ways of public transport and trams come up, I get a bit annoyed at people not addressing the fact that they seem to share the road with cars. Why do people twerk for trams so much as a form of light rail if they share the road with cars and are subject to being affected by traffic? Doesn't that just make them rail buses without their own bus lane? Doesn't that make them more obsolete? Why do people like them so much?

Edit: Also, does anyone have any resources about the cost to benefit ratio of different intratown/city forms of transport (bike lanes, BRT, trams and other forms of light rail, subways etc)? Would be much appreciated.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If you want to have a large city comparison

Once again, Birmingham is not a small city. It's a very big city but its reliance on buses makes it effectively much smaller than it could be because the commutable zone shrinks with the slowness of the buses at rush hour. Hence the snappy title of the piece I linked.

Berlin is an excellent additional example of the effect on a big city. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I know Birmingham, I just went with the joke, sorry. Maybe should have added some air quotes.

Berlin is only „big“ because it gobbled up a lot of area in the past. Outside the central districts it‘s often just suburbs or even literal villages. and the public transport becomes… limited… 😬

I guess a more honest comparison would be the West Midlands, roughly the same size, population close to 4 million (Berlin) vs 3 million (West Midlands).

Still though, Berlin is a very interesting example not just with regards to public transport, but also with regards to housing, street lighting, etc. Really impressive what a mere ~40y of differences in government policies can accomplish.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Its a terrible title, as you can see from the multiple people who misunderstood it. Interesting article though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's a very good title.