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On a recent post, there were a lot of comments, which said that they were missing the headphones on newer mobile devices.

How many actually use the headphone jack?

I ask, because I have one on my phone, since I really wanted one, but I rarely use it. Like Tops 1/Month.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

For me it's always been a dumb argument. There is no good argument for not having one

  • It costs maybe £2 to add a crappy DAC, amp, and headphone jack to a phone that is already ridiculously expensive.

  • The waterproof argument was destroyed by the S5, S6, S7, S8, and S9.

  • The iPhone 7 literally had the space inside for one!

It's also weird to me that a lot of budget phones have them. Like why would a £200 phone have a feature a £1,000+ phone doesn't?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Budget phones have them because wired earbuds or headphones are cheap: wired buds under $10. Last flight I was on gave them away for free. Harder to lose. If you're paying £1,000+ for a phone, the you're probably not worried about the cost of accessories. Might even put the style of no dangly wires over the functionality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Once again not correct. Yes they will give away cheap earphones, but you can get TW earbuds for £15 easily these days. Also there are plenty of wired earphones that cost hundreds and in a few cases thousands of pounds. It's still taking away functionality and features when you remove it.

And to address the original apple argument of oh the headphone jack is old outdated tech( from the iPhone 7 announcement). Please go look up a chord Hugo 2 dac. And tell me what the output is. Why then does a over £1,000 dac/amp have a headphone jack.

It's a poor argument from a company that wants to sell you a bunch of dongles and airpods. Which has unfortunately mostly worked.

And don't even get me started on the 2016 macbooks which went down so poorly due to the oh you're just poor argument not working that they went back and added more ports on the newer ones.

I'm not poor I just want to use my £200 wired earphones with my phone without needing a dongle that's designed to break easier then a late 2012-2016 MacBook charger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Too entitled to understand dividing markets by cost. Aesthetics trump functionality when your phone becomes a fashion accessory.

Why would you even waste studio headphones on a device with a $0.25 DAC and no space for signal isolation? Or is that just to signal fellow audiophiles.