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How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse) (ploum.net)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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With Meta starting to actually implement ActivityPub, I think it would be a good idea to remind everyone of what they are most likely going to do.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Both you and the writer claim to have been there back then, but have wildly different ideas for what happened... Were you a dev on XMPP too?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Oh, absolutely not. Let me be clear, I do not question that the author was involved in the project and interacted with Google. I do not question any of the factual details in the article and my argument is not that he's lying. Total respect for him, his work at the time and even his opinions on how annoying and frustrating it was working with Google around.

What I'm saying is his perspective on the alleged failure of XMPP is specifically biased by his insider experience, that many of the examples he gives do not apply to AP, that the process he describes there is not EEE, that it's not the reason XMPP and Google Talk failed and that, as he admits throughout the piece, XMPP didn't in fact disappear or "die" after Talk's failure or because of their intervention.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

An XMPP developer would likely have been delusional about the protocol he himself developed. But at the time I can assure you XMPP was completely irrelevant. AIM/ICQ/MSN/Yahoo! and maybe IRC were the tools of the day back then.

Because of actual competition (which XMPP had absolutely no part in) multi protocol messengers had their golden age then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

As a newb techie back then. Using 4 of the ones you listed.

I never heard of XMPP and still don't know what it was ..