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Mastodon's official stance on Threads (blog.joinmastodon.org)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are people mad at this? Being able to communicate with Threads users from mastodon servers, is good? Right?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Read this and you'll see why people are very skeptical.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Still not convinced. If Mastodon or ActivityPub dies we'll have Bluesky and AT. Not worried. Good to have options.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know we all dream of having all our friends and family on the Fediverse so we can avoid proprietary networks completely. But the Fediverse is not looking for market dominance or profit. The Fediverse is not looking for growth. It is offering a place for freedom. People joining the Fediverse are those looking for freedom. If people are not ready or are not looking for freedom, that’s fine. They have the right to stay on proprietary platforms. We should not force them into the Fediverse. We should not try to include as many people as we can at all cost. We should be honest and ensure people join the Fediverse because they share some of the values behind it.

This is incredibly naive. Mastodon/ActivityPub is much more popular than XMPP was lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are there numbers to back this up? I remember Pidgin being a contender to replace AIM for a time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

XMPP had nearly 10 million users in 2003: https://web.archive.org/web/20071103080257/http://www.xmpp.org/xsf/press/2003-09-22.shtml)) Activitypub has about 12 million users now: https://fediverse.observer/stats

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks.

So not too dissimilar in terms of total numbers of users... however considering the growth of the whole internet's user base...

760 million total worldwide internet users in 2003, vs 4.7 billion today.

Based on these sources, then, 1.3% of all internet users were using XMPP in 2003, and 0.26% of all internet users in the fediverse in 2023. As a proportion of all users, that makes XMPP roughly 5x more popular back then than ActivityPub is now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh I fucking member Pidgin.

Remember Trillium? Xbox Connect?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think there is a risk that Threads will be massive, and so people will think that the way to get on Mastodon is Threads, and eventually that Threads is Mastodon. C/f Google Groups and Usenet.