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A 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister in Florida after a family argument over Christmas presents, officials said Tuesday.

The teen had been out shopping on Christmas Eve with Abrielle Baldwin, his 23-year-old sister, as well as his mother, 15-year-old brother and sister's children, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference.

The teenage brothers got into an argument about who was getting more Christmas presents.

"They had this family spat about who was getting what and what money was being spent on who, and they were having this big thing going on in this store," Gualtieri said.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Jesus.

The 14 year old brother shot his 23 year old sister.

Then the 15 year old brother shot the 14 year old brother, and disposed of the handgun.

The 23 year old sister is dead. The 14 year old brother is stable.

The 14 year old is being charged with first degree murder. The 15 year old is being charged with attempted first degree murder.

The sister had a child, which was not harmed.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everything about this is messed up and tragic

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

...and preventable. Emotional teenagers should not have access to firearms!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Emotional teenagers should not have access to firearms!

Emotional humans should not have access to firearms, except under exceptional circumstances.

The US military knows this and it's why most people on military bases are not allowed to walk around armed, though they all have access to weapons when necessary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Well legally they don't have access to firearms. They also shouldn't have access to Heroin, and legally they don't, but it killed 3 of my friends before we even graduated, so in practice...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This whole thing is tragic and beyond dumb.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It would be tragic if this didn't feel like reading a weather report.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

It's also tragic because it feels like reading a weather report

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The 23 year old sister had 2 children, one of which was already 6 years old, if my reading skills aren't failing me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

he's going to kill his uncle when he's like 12

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This reads like a shitty math problem.

Jamal, 14M, shoots his 23 year old sister, Abriele, dead. Abriele had a 6 year old son How many years will it take for the 6 year old to be old enough to kill his Uncle in cold blood on Christmas? And what age will Jamal be?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The sister had a child, which was not harmed.

Arguable

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Apparently the sister died from drowning on her OWN blood.

Anyway, merry jolly Christmas everyone!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

What a wonderful family, with a lot of stable geniuses!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The sister had a child, which was not harmed.

I thought you said "armed", and if only... if that kid had been packing he could have been the good guy with a gun who would have mowed down all the bad guys and saved the day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

That family reunion is going to awkward AF next year.