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I don't know that we should be basing our gun laws around what makes people comfortable. On either side of the equation. They should be based on data that allowing or disallowing something regarding guns is safe for the general public and effective when it comes to crime and self-defense. Or at least that is what I think and I would be open to hearing an argument against that beyond an overly-broad interpretation of the Second Amendment where all gun regulations should be nullified.
This is another thing I have seen people claim here several times without data and, at the risk of offending some, I would again like to see some data which actually supports this claim.
There isn't need for data, it's just logic.
If you were going to rob a store and the person ahead of you openly has a gun on their hip, you're either going to leave, take them out, or steal their weapon.
If your're the one openly carrying, every person within arms reach could be a threat, and you'll never know how much OCing actually deterred any action.
If want data, feel free to find some, don't respond to every argument put into this thread with "I'd like to see some data"
Of course there is a need for data. Just because something sounds logical to you doesn't mean it is true. Shouldn't we be making laws on what is true and not what feels true?
It is not my job to back up other people's claims. Why do you think I should accept your claim or anyone else's because you think it's logical?
That would make sense if there were facts that we all agreed on…..
Logic isn't subjective.
I didn't enter into this conversation to contribute to some well researched discussion that you keep demanding from everyone that doesn't agree with you. You seemed like you wanted perspective from someone who understood the pro-gun position. I provided it, goodbye.
Logic is as subjective as you allow the premises you are working from be. Which is why logic is different than fact.
There is absolutely a need for data. This is why everyone says the pro-gun sides have no arguments. There’s no concrete data you can point to just “much logic”, which means nothing in conversations where facts need to be brought up.