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Japan determines copyright doesn't apply to LLM/ML training data (infosec.town)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/8121669

Taggart (@mttaggart) writes:

Japan determines copyright doesn't apply to LLM/ML training data.

On a global scale, Japan’s move adds a twist to the regulation debate. Current discussions have focused on a “rogue nation” scenario where a less developed country might disregard a global framework to gain an advantage. But with Japan, we see a different dynamic. The world’s third-largest economy is saying it won’t hinder AI research and development. Plus, it’s prepared to leverage this new technology to compete directly with the West.

I am going to live in the sea.

www.biia.com/japan-goes-all-in-copyright-doesnt-apply-to-ai-training/

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nice, time to train one with all the Nintendo leaks and generate some Zelda art and a new Mario title!

[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (1 children)

train one with all the Nintendo leaks

This is fine

generate some Zelda art and a new Mario title

This is copyright infringement.

The ruling in japan (and as I predict also in other countries) is that the act of training a model (which is just a statistical estimator) is not copyrightable, so cannot be copyright infringement. This is already standard practice for everything else: You cannot copyright a mathematical function, regardless of how much data you use to fit to it (that is sensible: CERN has fit physics models to petabytes worth of data, that doesn't mean they hold a copyright on laws of nature, they just hold the copyright on the data itself). However, if you generate something that is copyrighted, that item is still copyrighted: It doesn't matter whether you used an AI image generator, photoshop, or a tattoo gun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But you could ask it to generate something in the style of Zelda, without being Zelda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

And that would be completely legal, just like any random guy on deviantart can draw something in the style of e.g. Picasso without getting into trouble (unless of course they claim it was painted by picasso, but that should be obvious).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Nintendo would have coup the government if the decision made this scenario actually possible.