this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
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It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.
We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.
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Thank you so much! Let's make sure the XMPP situation never repeats ever again.
Still using heavily encrypted, self-hosted XMPP to talk to my family without META.
Even if they somehow manage to drag the majority of users over to their platform, we'll still have our little free haven.
Yea most people who will use threads probably wouldn’t use other Fediverse things or even know what they are. And people who are already here hate Meta anyway
Yep. My only concern about Meta joining the Fediverse through ActivityPub is privacy related.
Any federated instance can read any other federated instance, their users and what they do or what they talk about. A perfect victim for Meta's ad-targeting data siphon.
Yea that’s interesting, it’s already public data but I get your point.
It's public data to some degree.
It's a whole other thing when they can see what an admin of an instance can see.
I think the more concerning part is the medium in which people use Threads. It's one think for Meta to scrape for data, it's a much worse thing for someone to install the apps on the phone.
That's the last, worst step... Installing any Meta app on your device, making it a de facto telescreen.
So how would it see what the admin sees if it is not an admin of the instance?
Any admin from any instance can as long as both instances are federated with each other.
Say I upvote something on lemmy.zip, then the admins of every instance federated with lemmy.zip can see it in their logs.
Doesn't seem bad? It can be if someone collects this data en masse to feed some ad-algorithm with it. Or much worse, an adversary gets this data to target people based on their opinions, to dox them, etcetera.
Gotcha makes sense. So for example here .ml is not federated with meta but the are with .world and .world is federated with .ml won't it all just come full circle? And also it would just be comments, up votes, etc witch are kind of easy to find//if they really care will get anyway the thing is they (meta) do not know who I am. Unless of course they go it my IP or email (not sure how hard that would be for them from just looking at profiles on here)
Edit: sorry for 3 of same thing :)
They probably can already see that. It doesn't take much to start an instance.
True. Still worth fighting.