I’m the chimney sweep now!
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That's just your opinion. The fact is that those developing nations should have child labor laws in place, and proper enforcement of those laws to prevent children from being exploited. The blame belongs squarely on those who allow it, and I reject any personal responsibility for any of that because I have no control over the laws of any country.
It is not my opinion that international corporations brutally exploit the third world, it's a fact. It is also not my opinion that Capitalism leads to this, the profit motive inevitably leads to it.
You claiming that developing nations should just fight against international corporations brutally exploiting them and absolving yourself of any responsibility you have for it is just sticking your head in the sand. If you aren't boycotting Nestlé, you're supporting them.
The "good" news is that there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. You individually cannot do much, except protect, organize, and try your best to support less unethical companies whenever you can. However, to blame developing countries for corporations knowingly brutally exploiting them and offering no alternative is absolutely baffling.
Such an absurd thing to say. I’m sure you’ll win lots of hearts and minds with your absolutist take 🙄
Seriously! I mean, what if we only exploit a little bit of others' labor? Isn't that ok?
Sure, and when nobody wants to be a farmer in your utopia, you aren’t going to “exploit” anybody to fix that problem right?
I'm not exploiting you if we agree on a price for something.
What a way to say absolutely nothing.
If Capitalism is inherently exploitative, then there is no perfectly ethical form of it. Therefore, it should be replaced with a better system.
Do you imagine there is a switch somewhere? Like, right now we’re “doing capitalism” and tomorrow we could flip the switch and do something else?
Everything exists on a spectrum, and you won’t find anything like “pure” capitalism anywhere.
Id also disagree with the premise of it being inherently exploitative, but that’s a different topic.
No, I don't think you can just turn on the Socialism, Communism, or Anarchism button and do those. That's Utopianism. However, the idea that radical restructuring of society must be done via painfully slow iterative changes is also absurd and Utopian.
Capitalism is inherently exploitative, and that isn't a different topic. Complaining about me saying that there's no ethical consumption under Capitalism and yet saying you don't want to talk about why that's the case is just running away.
Capitalism is a bunch of mini-dictators competing, when we could have democratic and Cooperative control of industry instead.
Are you 14? You don't seem to understand how global trade works
I'm a bit older than that and have actually studied Macroeconomics at the undergraduate level. Have you?
Because a macroeconomics course is obviously going to be honest about this topic... Are you even serious?
We get it, you're white.. relax
Interesting take to assume developed = white and developing = not white.
I was referring to the rejecting any personal responsibility spiel. lol. I love how far off you were though