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U.S. President Joe Biden told Chinese President Xi Jinping following his meeting with Russia's Vladimir Putin to "be careful" because Beijing relies on Western investment.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (9 children)

And the West relies on Chinese manufacturing. All the scare mongering surrounding China, the US already would have pulled investment if they actually were the ones in control. The West has hitched its wagon to China at this point. They have no real alternative to turn towards.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wouldn't this be more of a double implication though? Without China to manufacture goods, the West is out of goods, but without the West to purchase said goods, China just gets stuck with a huge amount of goods it can only sell at a discount to other nations, thereby reducing their profit margins. Surely if other places were willing to pay just as much as the West for goods, they would be sold there as well, to not have all eggs in the same basket.

Sort of like what I read on a lunch place - "Eat here, or we both starve".

Not trying to start a pro-/anti-anything discussion, genuinely curious about the mechanics at play here, global economics, game theory and all that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Absolutely! Doesn't change the fact that Biden's warning is toothless bluster. If he actually tried to end US investment in China it would collapse the world economy. It's a M.A.D. world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's exactly his point though. It's more a reminder, less a threat. It actually sort of touched on it in the article, China's relationship to Putin vs the West.

It's sort of going "we see you eyeing off Taiwan, and chumming up to Russia... Please remember that there IS in fact a red line. We've told you where it is and if you cross it, you'll likely destroy us both. Please don't go thinking that you'll be fine, because your economy relies heavily on ours, the same as ours does yours. "

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