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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

They defederated with us? Dumb question but why? Honestly I think we'll end up isolated,

I'm also on the fediverse that is a plemora instance. I'm not going to give you the name.

But That instance has a FUCK ton of racists, say some pretty fucked up shit, the word N***r they throw that shit around like glitter, fucking hate women talk about them in an atrocious way, praise hitler and hate jews, transphobic hate gays etc

There is NONE of that here on exploding heads.

The reason why I use that instance is because I like to troll and talk shit to people and i can do that there without worrying about being banned. Those type of people are fun to argue with or they engage and joke back with me and we make fun of eachother. Which is what I like. That's the purpose I use it for. I don't agree with their line of thinking, but what am I gunna do? Shame them into changing their mind? ๐Ÿคฃ

I ignore it and use it for my benefit.

All this to say

We are only getting defederated because they don't like what we post and don't like us because we are on the right. I have seen none of what I described in the example I used here on exploding heads.

This proves to me its a power move and yet ANOTHER act of censorship.

That's why I wasn't really digging the idea of federation. Everyone tries to make it sound like it's a good thing but in the end everybody can def Federate with you and then you're by yourself and you can't see anything from anywhere else. I don't see how that's a plus side

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (13 children)

It does end up being worse in practice because defederation is used as some sort of virtue signal. In real life walls are expensive, difficult to erect and there is always a group of people trying to take it down. In the fediverse walls are easier than having a polite disagreement. Admins don't understand the issues and will usually cave to the loudest rather than the correct voices. I'm hopeful nostr will address these issues over the next two years.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Really nice to hear that somebody feels the same. I thought I was the only one and was going crazy with this whole defederation bullshit. Everybody keeps talking about it like it's this amazing way to deal with things and I'm just like no it's not like why the fuck would I want to have 167 different accounts?

That is not beneficial at all. You make a great point, I've been seeing this on cabin too and a bunch of other instances where they're complaining about us and rooting for de federation. And after I read that I think to myself then what's the fucking point of using Lemmy then? Why the fuck am I even here?

If I want to see conservative shit all the time I can just go on Truth social or gab or gttr or rumble. That's not what I want I don't want to see politics all the fucking time. I'm on here because I want to have discussions about relationships, movies, I want to see memes, I want to answer questions and give people advice about their life situations.

And then we're getting sectioned off because of our politics? It just really quite frankly pisses me off. Especially with the holier than now attitude. It's like you're allowed to be on the left but God forbid if you're on the right.

Yeah when it comes to Noster I'll be honest, I use it to troll the fuck out of people on there LOL because no sir Can't Ban you only the users can block you and that's it and I love that shit so much because I can just keep trolling the fuck out of people LOL and not get banned it's hilarious.

I know I'm a fucking asshole but the only reason why I troll on there is because everybody talks about God damn Bitcoin it's like a cult it's fucking annoying.

Like there's no other content except for Bitcoin that's why I don't primarily use an Oster except for trolling. What are you hoping for a changes with no stir in the next 2 years? Do you think it will ever become like a Reddit alternative at all? Sorry this is long as fuck I think Lemmy's success will be temporary.

I'm really confident about that because the fact that everybody is moving from Reddit and coming on here and everyone's already de federating? That says a lot. I think everything's going to get sectioned off everyone will be in their own instances and then they're just won't even be a point of using Lemmy anymore

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yea it makes me uncomfortable how hard bitcoin is being shilled on nostr. very inorganic

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I know dude! That's why I started trolling on there LOL because I was like what the fuck is going on here like why is everyone just talking about nostr like no one's talking about anything else.

How is it even supposed to grow into different types of communities and stuff if that's all they fucking talk about?

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