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The Supreme Court on Tuesday passed up a chance to intervene in the debate over bathrooms for transgender students, rejecting an appeal from an Indiana public school district.

Federal appeals courts are divided over whether school policies enforcing restrictions on which bathrooms transgender students can use violate federal law or the Constitution.

In the case the court rejected without comment, the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld an order granting transgender boys access to the boys’ bathroom. The appeal came from the Metropolitan School District of Martinsville, about 30 miles (48 kilometers) southwest of Indianapolis.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (27 children)

Why would anyone care where people go the bathroom? Where do you think transsexuals have been going all these years? What nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Hey! I appreciate your support, trans rights are human rights!

In the future, could you please use transgender instead of transexual? The latter is a really dated term and ties a gender and societal issue to sexuality. While they may be closely associated, they're not the same thing and any little bit helps break that association.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 8 months ago (22 children)

I've proven I can't remember this kind of stuff, but I'll try.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

That’s how it’s done, people.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

That's all anyone can ask of you. It's appreciated!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Good on you for working on it though!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seconded, transgender is more accurate and how we describe ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The one exception is older trans folk who use that label because it is the one that resonated with them when they were figuring themselves out. Despite the label's history with transmedicalism some of the elders are not down to have their identities questioned by us younger folk and their experiences are valid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mostly true, but I am a transexual in my 30's. I agree that trans is the best term to use for our community. But when I refer to myself transsexual is the term I use. Transgender is still accurate of course, but it doesn't quite feel right as I talk about the differences between sex and gender to people.

But that's just me, and you are absolutely right that everyone should use whatever term they are comfortable with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Please forgive my error, I think you are the first I've personally met under 50 that has embraced the label. I must admit that there is a bit of me that twinges with the carrying on of it but also recognize that's partially a me problem. Trans medicalism and the distinction of having to possess a fully changed physicality to be accepted by both outside and inside the trans community has traditionally been the hammer weilded by binary trans folk against the non-binary trans community as a "you're not a REAL trans person" style accusation so it generally makes me personally a bit skittish hearing "trans sexual" from anyone my age or younger.

But it's largely the fault of pressures that effect us all. When someone is under pressure to glean any amount of respectability to survive cracks form in solidarity and some will take the opportunity to point to the next person down the line that's even harder to understand and go "Oh, I'm nothing look at them. Aren't I just reasonable by comparison? " I think nowadays I see more growing solidarity inside the community than a decade ago but the memory of those divisions and the language used still makes me twitch.

But inside the non-binary trans community we have a similar bit of friction with people who use it/its pronouns... Like for a lot of us that is very VERY unwelcome because it has dehumanizing connotations but for some that is legit what they feel best supported by in their experience. I know some inside the group have the gut instinct to feel kind of undercut by that minority inside our minority for creating a "bad" example to the straights but the world is full of nuance and it can probably afford some extra.

It's just unfortunate even when there's a lot of us around in a place a lot of cis folk don't know the very basics of what is common good practice versus what is kind of a special case. It drives the instinct to self police more then we should have to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I also prefer transexual and wish it hadn't been discarded for transgender. Feels like a euphemism train, but transcending the idea of what gender I am, versus the boundaries of biological sex isn't as strong of an idea or conceptual framework to me.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

They have a whole ~~fantasy~~ conspiracy they've cooked up where we're sneaking in to women's restrooms to do human trafficking and dark web revenge porn and shit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

And that's the typical projection of the conservatives who revealed that they would do that if they had the ability.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

If a trans man sneaks into the boys room, everybody in the room spontaneously turns gay.

If a trans woman sneaks into the girls room, it’s a lesbian orgy.

I don’t make the facts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think a bigger concern are regular men using this as an excuse to creep on women in bathrooms.

At least that's what I hear women saying. They're afraid of men using their restrooms.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It's so much easier for a cis man to say he's a trans man than for a cis man to dress as a woman and try to pass as a trans woman.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not saying you haven't, but I've never once heard a woman afraid of men creeping on women in the bathroom. But I'm curious, aside from someone outside the bathroom doors either checking genitals or birth certificates, how exactly would enforcement of a bathroom bill work?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cis woman here, I not only have never been afraid of the possibility that a man might enter the woman's bathroom, if I ever encountered a man in the woman's bathroom I'd just assume they accidentally went in the wrong one or maybe it was a dad taking his daughter in or something similarly innocuous.

I really hope all trans women can feel safe one day entering the women's room (and trans men with the men's room) so they can use it in peace. Bathroom policers can fuck all the way off.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They don’t think we’ve been around for years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I'm reading this super awesome book called "before we were trans" That kind of goes over the history of gender non-conformity and transgender identities. It's fucking amazing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I don't have anything to back it up but I think it's a large group's correlation between trans/gay == pedophilia. When I was a kid, my mom(southern baptist republican) didn't differentiate between gay people and illegal sexual activity like molestation(this was in the 80s). If my mom had been told that a guy that viewed himself as a girl wanted to use the girl's restroom, she would have immediately decided it was because he wanted to do something terrible to the girls.

I think the main reason for that is because her God told her gay people were going to hell.. It made it easy for her to view them as evil.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

They don't believe transexuals exist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Worse: they are expending huge amounts of tax dollars over the right to act in a discriminatory way.

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