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yup https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reports-claim-negotiator-shot-for-treason-officials-say-he-died-in-intel-op/
Is the Times of Israel a good source for this? Their sources are two tweets and a Facebook post along with the heavy use of the word “alleged”.
It's been fairly widely reported at the time even in western media. I was just too lazy to dig for a better source.
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The hell? Thanks for hitting me with a bizarre stray for simply asking about a source.
Also, what happened to the northern pincers from Belarus? They didn’t move from Ukraine to Belarus, they started in Belarus, acted as a diversionary assault, took large causalities, and pulled back when the position became untenable and more assistance and attention was needed for the Donetsk front.
Or are you saying that the Russian Army itself is lying? They are my source, what’s yours?
You specifically said Russia lost the battle of kiev and moved to belarus after the defeat. These skirmishes are nothing. Russian army was standing still for 2 weeks when they surrounded the suburbs of Kiev. I remember, our communist newspapers were reporting that Russian army was standing still because of an acute water crisis in Kiev and some negotiations happening in Turkey. After that negotiations, Russia pulled out from Kiev. Putin, Lavrov said several times why they did it (negotiations) long before these clowns and Israeli PM had any convo about peace agreement.
Like many of your outdated takes , you can't admit that you were wrong 😌🤣
Again, everything you are saying is completely devoid of reality and the exactly opposite of what the Minoborony and army themselves have stated. Are you Putin himself? Are you telling me you know more then the Russian Ministry of Defense?
“Our nameless communist newspapers”? Ok? That’s the best source you have?
I was in the Gomel Oblast visiting family as the assault itself was underway. A terrible place to be in light of the war, but guess who you got to meet a lot of in a Belarusian border city? Soldiers on leave. Guess what were the things they discussed and the gruesome details they shared? Yes they had seized ground, but they were never supposed to meaningfully hold it, only draw Ukrainian units away from the front line, and they could not sustain their losses or hold their positions with their current supply lines and unit strength, so they were pulling back to redeploy to Donetsk. They were never supposed to achieve “victory” in Kiev.
Guess what that’s identical to? The Russian MOD outline for why the drive in Kiev was planned! Who would have thought?
But I’m sorry Marshal Zhukov. You know best, and you are a military genius when it comes to this.