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It's amazing how this meme/whinging was going on for a decade on the internet, only for James Cameron to make a second movie and even that made 2 billion dollars (and could have surpassed the first one had there not been an outbreak in China).
And even after all of that, you guys actually think that people don't care or remember about the films?
I think that people know and care about the films, but I've never seen anyone make a reference to it outside of discussions that are explicitly about it
Because it's not a franchise that's 50 years old like star wars or based off any existing material.
Once you have a generation that grew up on these films, you'd see more of the references.
That's his point though. We grew up with both Avatars and when talking about it by name, many people think of the animation.
The very thing you are saying won't happen for 50 years is happening with that show.
Yeah ATLA was primarily aimed at kids and teens, so obviously today it'd be talked by them more.
Avatar is the antithesis to every "popular" movie. The hero isn't a single man-child who quips all the time, he's a crippled guy with a family, serious and sincere.
The same is true of John Wick, and by my estimate, that has had a significantly bigger impact on pop culture.
Also, Avatar is only like 5 years newer than A:TLA, but even ten years ago the cultural impact of TLA was monumental compared to the impact of Cameron's Avatar today
How do you measure it? Pandora theme park rides are insanely packed all the time. The first movie led to everyone getting 3DTVs, there were people who got depressed since they couldn't live on Pandora.
Sure the terminally online crowd doesn't gush about it, but you'd be lying if it didn't have any impact.
Another reminder that we all share the same internet, but we live in different universes. Ain't no one I know wasted money on a 3DTV or regular theme park rides. I guess among the folk that can afford obscenely expensive toys and even more expensive vacations, it might have had a bigger impact, but of the 5 figure income folks I know, not one really cares about the movies. I don't even know of anyone who bought a 3DTV, let alone bought one specifically for Avatar
If only we had a metric that could estimate how many people watched it....
I never said nobody watched it. The whole point of this discussion is that it's surprising how little cultural impact it has despite the insane viewer numbers
More that they don't follow IN YOUR CIRCLE. Seriously, avatar chud meme is all over twitter and reddit regardless of fandoms.
A meme and a theme park ride are enough to show that a movie made a truly nuclear impact on popular culture, got it
And like 2 billion dollars both movies have made individually?
As opposed to what exactly was ATLA's cultural impact? A toxic fandom that moans about getting female led content?
Once again I must restate that this whole discussion is about the fact that, despite it being the highest grossing movie of all time, it has left no impact on popular culture, aside from one amusement park ride and one meme. What don't you get about this? I am acknowledging the impressive amount of money the movie made, while at the same time pointing out that it didn't impact popular culture even a little bit, aside from a few jokes making fun of the lazy writing.
Can you quote even one line from the movie without looking it up?
Once again I must restate that "popular" doesn't mean just the people YOU interact with.
Easy, "I see you, Jake Sully" from the first one, from the second one it'd have to be "I can't believe I'm tied up again!" by little Tuk or a bloodlusted Neytiri saying "A son, for a son".
You're 100% wrong and being a dick.
Avatar the blue people was the highest grossing film, a metric touted by media. Which then I'm sure people rewatched.
However Avatar the Last Airbender and Legend of Korra sell far more merch and nearly a decade after the first aired it was rereleased on Netflix and becomes one of the most rewatched series. On top of that there is a clear fandom for Avatar that the movies entirely lack.
How about this, go find me more people with blue people Avatar tattoos, clothing, fanfic, etc.
You are mistaking someone dumping money into the blue people Avatar as success. It is not. A theme park isn't publicly funded, that's meaningless. You're gonna tell me Six Flags is more popular than Pizza because it has theme parks? No
The evidence is clear buddy. Avatar belongs to the benders
Sure buddy.
There were a lot more people quoting Star Wars in 1992 than quoting Avatar now.
The films are super popular but again after the sequel it was like everyone immediately went back to literally never mentioning the Na’avi or Pantera.
It's because they look incredible on the big screen so people go to see them at the theater but the story and characters aren't anything we haven't seen a dozen times before so there's nothing to really talk about long term.
Yes, lots of people watched it, but it never made the cultural impact that The Last Airbender had on society at large. A lot of people remember the movie for it's stunning visuals, and remember the general themes in the movie, but not the actual characters because they weren't particularly memorable.
The Last Airbender had a very compelling story, loveable characters with phenomenal development and it stuck with people.
How many times have you heard someone make a reference to the movie other than talking about it's visual mastery? People use The Last Airbender in everyday conversations.
To demonstrate how many people engage with the fandoms: James Cameron's Avatar has 5,127 fanfiction stories on AO3, and 1678 stories on FFN, and The Last Airbender has 41,627 fanfics on AO3, and 47,680 on FFN.
Guarantee this dude responds saying that those are just your circles, and that among people that aren't "terminally online," blue man group avatar is sooo much more popular, source: trust me bro