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Fuck Cars (not all) & Car Dependant Infrastructure
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When they solve the bum piss, panhandling, preaching, violence problem then trains will be great. Until then people will want to be in their own space.
I think thats more of an American problem then a general problem tbh
You forgot delays, drunk football fans (in Europe at least), party folks, teenagers listening to shitty music, overcrowding, reckless passengers, unfriendly ticket inspectors, creeps molesting women and that one guy behind you who has to cough all the time for some reason.
I still endure that shit because of its obvious benefits for the climate and the fact, that a car would be even more expensive for me, but I can't say I enjoy it.
Sadly homelessness and mental health issues get push around until they find somewhere the less resistance. Because of the NA "public transport is for the poor" mindset it means there's no political capital from handling that issue in public transport. If a homeless sleeps on a street, a cop will spawn within 5 minutes to kick him to the side walk (because obviously pedestrians don't mind). Hell in Montreal when it's super cold outside the police implicitly told to be more lenient with homeless people sleeping in the subway otherwise because they have nowhere to go and outside they will die (homeless dying from cold weather happens every year here)
What you are saying is correct, and, it's a legitimate reason to dislike public transport. I'm just nuancing that it's not an issue inherent to public transport it's inherent to the choices we make as a society (hide unpleasant people for the comfort of a class of people). Some would even say it's directly because we value cars more than human lives which seems hyperbolic at first but the more you think about it...
we have great solutions to all but the preaching called "social safety nets" nobody grows up wanting to be a bum, and people are violent when times are rough.
The preaching is hella annoying at 8am when you're trying to just get to work. Violence, no matter how understandable, will make people avoid other people.
Social safety nets are a plenty in nyc(one of the bluest places in America) and still a bunch of homeless people. You're not going to get the federal government solving nyc problems and nyc hasn't been able to solve the problem no matter how many billions are thrown at the problem.
NYC may be one of the blue-est states in north america, but it would be one of the Red-est counties in countries like canada, most of europe etc. (also depending when you look at america historically as economically, the states have been becoming more and more conservative for the past century or so)
Depends on the country you live in, in most countries this is not a problem but public transport is still not embraced nearly as much as it should be.