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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Believe in science", that's anti-science. "My body, my choice" has always been in context of abortion, and viewed as left wing. Here it's the exact same words, the exact same meaning in context of taking an experimental redefined definition of a vaccine. It's in this setting that characters make or breaks. If you cannot uphold your values when they matter, you don't have values, you have hobbies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It sounds like you're a moral absolutist, and that is absolutely right-wing. Context is key. You can say "It's wrong to kill", but what if the person you killed was trying to kill you, and you acted in self defense? What if killing them was the only choice you had to prevent them from killing you or somebody you love?

Similarly, you can say "My body, my choice", but the situation is different when you're talking about getting an abortion vs. getting a vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can call me whatever you like. Here is a text about the differences between ethics and laws, taken from a dentist journal, but the same laws apply here.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jopr.13493

In general, the courts have determined how ethical principles translate into the requirements for how healthcare providers obtain a patient's consent for treatment. Consent from a legal perspective involves respecting the “bodily integrity of the individual.” This dimension emanates from the philosophy of personal autonomy, defined as “an individual's capacity for self-determination or self-governance” or “the capacity to decide for oneself and pursue a course of action in one's life.” The courts view the informed consent requirement for a healthcare provider as a requirement to disclose sufficient information for the patient to make a “controlled decision before undergoing irreversible treatment.”, A patient's consent must be voluntary, meaning “no coercion or unfair persuasion and inducements” and can be withdrawn at any time.

There is no special cut-out for vaccination within the law. In this context a vaccine would be defined as "irreversible [medical] treatment".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Getting a vaccine is a public health issue while getting an abortion is not. By choosing to not get vaccinated, you place other people at risk by increasing your chances of infecting others and by giving the virus more opportunities to mutate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Here are the rules in Norway from our FHI. The same rules apply in other countries, just more wishy-washy worded...

https://www.fhi.no/va/vaksinasjonsveilederen-for-helsepersonell/vaksinasjon/lover-og-regler-ved-vaksinasjon/?term=#vaksinasjon-er-frivillig

Vaksinasjon er frivillig All vaksinasjon i Norge er frivillig. Personer som anbefales eller ber om vaksine må få tilstrekkelig informasjon om fordeler og ulemper ved vaksinering til å kunne ta et informert valg. Det skal også være åpenhet om usikkerhet og kunnskap som mangler.

Translate it and weep.