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Bluesky is finally open to everyone. But will anyone come? We ask its CEO. (www.businessinsider.nl)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Graber is "optimistic about human potential, even though I'm realistic about human nature." When Bluesky launched last year, it filled a gap that was desperately needed by people who were looking for alternatives to X, as it seemed like the ship formerly known as Twitter was possibly sinking. (Against all odds, it hasn't yet.)

Bluesky wasn't as confusing as Mastodon and wasn't owned by Meta like Threads. Bluesky looks and feels much like Old Twitter.

There was only one snag: It was available as a beta launch, only with an invite code, which was initially so hard to obtain that even Joe Biden couldn't get one. Starting Tuesday, Bluesky is finally out of "beta" and will be open to anyone — no codes needed.

Like Mastodon and Threads, Bluesky is an experiment in a new, "decentralized" way of running a social app, where users can create their own communities and moderation rules. (Bluesky also has its own moderation team.)

Jack Dorsey was involved in creating Bluesky while he was still at Twitter and now sits on its board. It's organized as a public benefit corporation.

Ultimately, it may not be a winner-takes-all competition between these X alternatives; the new approach to social may be to exist happily in smaller pockets without needing massive scale to survive. (Although Meta certainly would love to win the battle with Threads.)

More here - https://www.businessinsider.nl/bluesky-is-finally-open-to-everyone-but-will-anyone-come-we-ask-its-ceo/

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (4 children)

For everyone wondering why anyone would use Bluesky when Mastodon and/or the Fediverse is around.

I have to ask why not use both? All the tech people I followed on Twitter went to Mastodon almost immediately when Musk bought the site, while most of my personal friends on Twitter were not willing to leave because they thought Mastodon was too techy and Bluesky couldn't replicate the network of people they valued from Twitter. That said, slowly over time as the invites came rolling in for Bluesky, my personal friend circle has been willing to move to Bluesky while they still wont touch Mastodon and honestly it hasn't harmed me in the least to use both. It's actually sorta nice to have the tech stuff in a separate bucket from my personal connections.

I'm not super hopeful that the AT protocol ever expands beyond the single site it is now, but I will be fully happy to launch my own instance and keep my personal contacts if that day ever comes, and if it doesn't, I've still got Mastodon to fall back to where I'm pretty happily established but for the lack of the people I know IRL.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m on the other side, why use either? Microblogging seems quite dated and the format is not conducive to conversation. I prefer Lemmy style posts and comments to microblogging.

Let’s not even get started on how stupid people sound when they talk about skeets and toots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I’m on the other side, why use either?

Microblogging is a great format for following creators. I don't need your life story to know that you've got a new album, a new software release, a new security vulnerability, a new video, a new tour, or a new comic. The shortform communication forced by Mastodon or Bluesky is perfect for that. It gives enough room to share those quick updates, and that's about it. Replies are also kept succinct which makes parsing those for relevant context or side info similarly simple.

I originally got into Twitter because it was the update channel for when new Cyanogenmod releases dropped and I stuck around because following the right security professionals made it so that I could learn about a new CVE within seconds of its filing rather than having to wait for a news site I visit to catch wind of it and write something up. Which in turn made my job easier because I knew what systems we'd need to be patching well before that info bubbled up to my bosses so I could already have a head start on the work before the ask reached me officially.

These days, microblogging (at least with a straight chronological follow feed) more or less achieves what RSS used to back before everyone suddenly decided about a decade back that it wasn't worth maintaining an RSS feed without Google running Reader or some crap. By way of example, ~20 years ago I had 13 comics that I followed via my RSS reader, today only 5 of those creators still have RSS feeds and a couple of those seem like they're on life support for how they seem to infrequently pause updates for a few days at a time. All of the RSS feeds that are gone have moved to microblogging of some sort for updates, and I'd rather they use something open than the likes of Twitter (which I left at the first whiff that Musk was buying the place) or Instagram (which I have never used because it's Facebook and I don't do Facebook.)

Let’s not even get started on how stupid people sound when they talk about skeets and toots.

Yeah, I'll agree there. I call them posts wherever they reside. It's what they've always been, it's what they'll always be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This.

I don't understand the appeal of microblogging. The content is generally very low quality, the signal-to-noise ratio is horrible... I'm not interested in the shower thoughts of any particular individual ...or in marketing stunts.

The only individuals I'm interested on are my family & friends, and even for them I'd rather use a more private platform.

And when I want to read a public post I'd rather it's well thought and ideally not restricted by micro-limitations. Even better if it's curated by a public voting process among a community of people with my same interests, or some other process that makes it so I don't have to waste my time going through tons of content I'm not remotelly interested on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I'm still hoping that ATProto will one day federate natively with ActivityPub. It's very possible, and there are already relays doing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

@DarthYoshiBoy @dez It shouldn't matter: thankfully both ActivityPub and AT protocol have open source implementations, so we can have ways for it to work together.

I think we have had so many years of app == platform == protocol that we've forgotten what interoperability really means and looks like. Even the distinction between Lemmy/Mastodon/Kbin et al. feels like a holdover from those times.