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Sovereign citizen tried to pay for their car with sovcit methods (letter in the comments) (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

So how is this any different, in their minds, from stealing?

They take a loan out to buy a car. They clearly have 0 intention of paying that loan off by citing some sovereign citizen encantation.

How can they reconcile that in their heads?

"I deserve free things at the cost of others, because I'm clever"?

Scum, regardless of your libertarian philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In their minds, they're not stealing, they just paying with unexpected money.
They're saying "send the bill to my secret government trust account", since they think everyone secretly has one of those that the government opened when they were born and use for Purposes™.

Sometimes they just think they've found a loophole. It's not stealing because it's legal.
If someone offers you a car for free, you'd be silly not to take the offer,even if afterwards they say they would have liked you to give them a pile of money.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They’re saying “send the bill to my secret government trust account”, since they think everyone secretly has one of those that the government opened when they were born and use for Purposes™.

If they really don't think they're stealing, then they would be transparent about their method of payment up front. I very highly doubt they would have received financing if they communicated that expectation while applying.

So it seems more like bad faith excuses than actual belief in what they're doing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

I can't speak to their intent or internal state of mind, only to what they seem to say they're trying to do.

I can say though, that I wouldn't assume consistency or rational action to be things I would expect of people who think the capitalization of their name is the difference between them and a shell corporation opened under maritime law by way of their "berth certificate".

Either way what they're doing is fraud.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I would guess that they were told by some "guru" how exactly to do it, and never questioned the magic words.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Consequences of trying to have unexpected money is expected boot up the ass

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

It started with alternative science, now we have alternative law.