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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are they good? How do they compare to what they have now and their opponent?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The MT-LB and the M113 are both tracked armored vehicles that can carry troops or cargo, but they have different origins, designs, and roles. Here are some of the advantages and disadvantages of each vehicle:


  • The MT-LB was developed by the Soviet Union in the 1950s as a multi-purpose, amphibious, light armored tractor and utility vehicle. It has a small turret that can mount a 12.7 mm machine gun, a 30 mm grenade launcher, or a 30 mm autocannon. It has steel armor that can withstand small arms fire and shell splinters. It has a low profile that makes it less visible and vulnerable to enemy fire. It is cheaper and more versatile than the M113, as it can be used for various roles such as anti-air, anti-tank, artillery, mortar, ambulance, engineering, etc.

  • The M113 was developed by the United States in the 1960s as an armored personnel carrier (APC) that can transport infantry on the battlefield. It has a simple design that consists of a box-shaped aluminum hull with a 12.7 mm machine gun on top. It has better ergonomics, maintenance, logistics, optics, and communications than the MT-LB, as it was designed with the comfort and safety of the crew and passengers in mind. It is taller and therefore better suited for counter-insurgency (COIN) operations, as it can provide better visibility and fire support for the troops.

  • The MT-LB has some disadvantages compared to the M113, such as:

    • Its amphibious capability is impractical and requires a lot of preparation and maintenance. It is not very effective in crossing rivers or lakes, as it is slow and vulnerable in the water.

    • Its turret has a limited traverse and elevation, and its weapons are not very accurate or powerful. It cannot engage enemy tanks or aircraft effectively, and it relies on external fire control and optics.

    • Its engine is noisy and unreliable, and its suspension is stiff and uncomfortable. It has poor mobility and speed on rough terrain, and it consumes a lot of fuel.


  • The M113 has some disadvantages compared to the MT-LB, such as:

    • Its aluminum armor is thin and weak, and it can be easily penetrated by rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), mines, or improvised explosive devices (IEDs). It offers little protection for the crew and passengers without ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor).

    • Its machine gun is the only weapon it has, and it has no turret or grenade launcher. It cannot defend itself against enemy armor or aircraft, and it depends on external support for fire power.

    • Its design is outdated and obsolete, and it has been replaced by more modern and advanced vehicles in many countries. It has limited versatility and adaptability, and it can only perform the role of an APC.


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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I am fairly certain the the M113 can, in fact, fit a grenade launcher on it, though that may just be a special modification I'm thinking of.