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[–] [email protected] 138 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I've been using Linux since Ubuntu was in the single digits. Looks like windows entering the double digits is finally the end. I thought win10 would be able to stay relatively unmolested, but nope, copilot button and bullshit right there in the bar. Why can't you just leave us the fuck alone. Your driving everyone away who doesn't have a professional obligation to use your OS. I'll still have to keep a old win10 boot drive that never connects to a network so I can play games and use CAD that Linux can't. As a KDE fanboi they've added pretty much everything I've always wished for and plasma 6 is launching.

Now is my time. Fuck you Microsoft. I won't miss you.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

10+ years with Linux as my daily driver (yeah I'm old). When my os updates, it's almost always with some feature that's pretty neat.

Nowadays the steamdeck or some combo of Linux with steam can play my games, do my work, and I actively make other people's lives better when I contribute.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for your contribution to the Linux ecosystem!

It's people like you who make this whole thing possible

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Anyone can. It's part of what makes it great.

[–] Cethin 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried gaming on Linux lately? You don't need Windows anymore except if you use GamePass, because MS has locked that software down to Windows. The only problem game I had was The Finals until recently, and it now works on Linux. Besides that the only issue is I can't mod Baulder's Gate 1 because it requires injecting things and that doesn't work with Linux as far as I can figure out. The game runs fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm a long time mint user, and I was also a 1st batch steamdeck so I've seen how far just proton has come. There's still a handful of games that just won't work, work but not with the mods I need, or take a performance hit. I also have a driving simulator with a VR headset. I'm sure I could get it running on Linux eventually but windows just does it. Recognizes and just installed the drivers for all my hardware. And for VR, there are now a lot of solutions, but I've found windows to just be the fastest and best performing. I need every frame I can get running vr on a 2060.

[–] Cethin 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, modding sucks right now. If the game let's you manually add mods without injecting, then it's fine, though manual can take a while. Nexus Mod Manager (and most others, though CKAN for KSP(1&2) works pretty well but won't launch the game through that application for me) don't work yet for Linux, but it looks like they're working on a new application that'll run natively on Linux, so I'm looking forward to that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

r2modman has a native Linux client as well and handles pretty much all unity games

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I flirted with gnome this install around. I'm so lazy to reinstall yet again to get back to my previous plasma. Seriously Linux is a way better experience these days, I wish those that could would just give it an honest shot. The learning curve isn't too bad once you understand a couple things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Gnome is awful. It's almost as bad as windows. Basically 0 customization, and getting worse every release. I can't even fathom how you would voluntarily switch from plasma to gnome and not immediately switch back

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It just works for me, and I prefer the look to that of KDE. Like, fair enough if it’s not your cup of tea, but your basic point here is “I don’t like the workflow and I highly value customisation”, and you then act like your subjective preferences are fact.

You can customise Gnome quite a lot, btw. I’m not even saying you should give it another shot, but please just don’t act like your personal preferences are objectively accurate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I’m not even saying you should give it another shot, but please just don’t act like your personal preferences are objectively accurate.

I'm forced to use it at work if I want to use linux. You really can't, and to customize even a little bit you need lots of extra tools and maybe even access the css. For example, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1160/dash-to-panel/ is the only way to get a usable task bar. And calling it usable is being very generous.

The gnome devs are extremely opinionated in removing configuration and features. It's honestly disgusting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I dislike how they took away minimizing windows. Please help me understand the lack of system tray. I have apps that go there and I have a plugin to bring it back and all the icons have a black background which is super annoying.

Discord, telegram, signal, flameshot, and others are in there and I don't understand how gnome intends me to access them otherwise when they're "closed" in the background.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i've always been able to minimize windows from the alt-space window menu. but they are enabling all kinds of customization through the extensions. i have transparent windows (every window, not just apps that support it as part of their functionality), tiling through the Forge extension, the tweak tool gives you lots of stuff including restoring the minimize button to where you think it should be, and there is even an extension to give you your system tray back. but now the gnome team can just focus on putting together the essential parts, and people who want thefunctionality you describe can build it and install it through the extensions.

i, too, was a bit put off when they ditched the gnome2 look and feel, and i stayed on xfce for a long time. but my job had me using windows and i found out that i like just hitting super, typing what i want to do, and then it happens.

now, the software center's tendency to tell me to reboot for updates is something else. we can hotswap kernels now. don't fucking tell me i need to reboot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

My experience with the extensions is they frequently break on gnome updates and sometimes functionality is missing when updated and it's been a disaster imo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Idk with a couple of extensions I really enjoy the GNOME work-flow. Although I admit KDE on my SteamDeck has been tempting me lately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

KDE is amazing and you should give it a try. It's unbelievably customizable, and is so much more seamless. Having to use gnome is almost as frustrating as having to use macos. And in a lot of the same ways. Like, trying to get a usable task bar in gnome is infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

usable task bar in gnome

Just one easy to enable extension for this, but it should definitely be the default. Overall I like the stock GNOME experience and find it clean. When you get the hang of GNOME it starts to make sense. Super key is the answer.

KDE is obviously more powerful, but I don't like customizing my desktop very much so that point is moot for me.

I'm going full KDE for the next 6 months, you should try GNOME for a bit, give it a solid chance with extensions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I'm forced to use gnome at work. It's horrible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

that's a fair opinion, but for some people they feel the same way about KDE (me). Gnome's workflow is killer for me, and I love the consistency in design and intent with everything.

I suppose not everybody just wants customizability

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, and holy shit has it come so far. Unfortunately in the professional world you often just need the native program to open the file. Even just for compatability, but rolling back and/or modifying is only possible within its native software.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Would OnShape be an option for you ? I haven't booted up Windows since I was able to work with OnShape to replace Solidworks. But I just do hobby projects. I didn't have to worry about compatibility for collaboration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It still is. There's an animal "codename" and a number for all releases.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

So many memories, dapper drake with the LTS. For some reason I used karmic koala which is 9.10 until 12. I played thousands of hours of minecraft and ksp because other that valve games those where like the only two that ran naively without fucking around with the abomination that wine was at the time.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, that was the best link I could find at that moment. Since the word "ubuntu" means something like "humanity towards others," Canonical really leaned into that concept with their tagline "Linux for human beings" in the early days. This involved shipping some controversial wallpaper images and using less risque shots from the same photo shoot on things like the CD-ROM cover.