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  • California authorities found a man illegally owning 248 guns and 1 million rounds of ammo.
  • The state attorney general said he also had 3,000 magazines and several grenades in his home.
  • The guns included 11 machine guns, 133 handguns, and 60 assault rifles, authorities said.
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Once again laws don’t deter criminals, they just punish honest citizens.

That's an idiotic point of view. There aren't "criminals" and "non-criminals". Virtually everybody is a criminal, it's just that most people only break minor laws, like running red lights, infringing copyrights, littering, etc. Those people don't break other laws because the risk vs. reward calculation doesn't work out for them.

Even a big criminal like Donald Trump who has broken dozens if not hundreds of laws isn't out shooting people because that's not the kind of crime he does.

There isn't some magic switch that turns someone from "honest citizen" to "criminal", it's a whole spectrum of law breaking. Even that old lady who goes to church every day probably goes faster than the speed limit, parks illegally, etc. For someone in the middle of the spectrum, say someone who cheats on their taxes, tries to scam old church-going ladies out of their money, etc. there are kinds of crimes they'll do, and other kinds of crimes they won't do.

Way at the criminal end of the spectrum, you have people who commit violent crimes. But, not every violent crime involves a gun. Muggers and carjackers don't always use guns because the extra punishment is a slight deterrent. So, the law deters them. However, since the US is a society of gun nuts, it doesn't offer as much of a deterrent as it would in some place like the UK or Japan.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No acknowledgement that your prior post had zero facts or even a basis in reality when it came to criminal law? No matter how many facts I just put out there you just want to move the goal posts and fall back to how you feel criminals calculate when to use guns or not.

Your feelings don’t constitute an argument I respect or wish to engage in further.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dodging the point yet again, I see.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Was there a point in all of your rambling? All you did was make unsupported statements of what you felt a criminal would do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and I know you got the point because it's obvious how hard you're trying to pretend you didn't understand it. I know I got through to you, and I know that you understand the strength of my argument because you're working so hard to pretend you didn't see it. I know I convinced you, but you're afraid to admit it because you'll lose face.

You can keep pretending, but it's just not believable, sorry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Lol whatever makes you feel good about yourself.