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I'd like to know other non-US citizen's opinions on your health care system are when you read a story like this. I know there are worse places in the world to receive health care, and better. What runs through your heads when you have a medical emergency?

A little background on my question:

My son was having trouble breathing after having a cold for a couple of days and we needed to stop and take the time to see if our insurance would be accepted at the closest emergency room so we didn't end up with a huge bill (like 2000$-5000$). This was a pretty involved ~10 minute process of logging into our insurance carrier, and unsuccessfully finding the answer there. Then calling the hospital and having them tell us to look it up by scrolling through some links using the local search tool on their website. This gave me some serious pause, what if it was a real emergency, like the kind where you have no time to call and see if the closest hospital takes your insurance.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Oh wow, I didn't know that. Google says $13.493 per person in 2022. And in Germany it's a bit more than $7.000...

Also things like maternal mortality are WAY worse...

I mean the USA is bigger and maybe things don't translate exactly from a somewhat densely populated central european country to the vast emptiness of rural Wyoming. I guess an hospital is also something that is subject to economy of scale... But even most northern european countries where doctors come in with helicopters, don't exceed the ~$7.000.

It is really off for the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita

(If that is correct, you could spend half the money on healthcare and also live 3 years longer, on average...)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Life expectancy is going down cuz suicide rates are shooting up. Like suburban boys with shopping malls, their classrooms and/or heroin/fent

Fuuuuck. Nailed it, I'm fucking kiiiiiiiiilling it today. Ziiiing!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Hmmh, but that's only the thing on top. Contrary to other countries, life expectancy seems to be actually going down since 2014... But there is already something seriously wrong since ~1980...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And seems it never has gotten better than that, regarding this apect. Even worse 😮‍💨