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i wouldn't mix the post-labor with ''ai'' because they are overhyping it just for the usual capital needs;
i agree on the rest of the answer tho, i feel like listening to someone saying you can't take a photo because you have to draw or paint them to show your skills
to me, art is something that wants to express an idea or a feeling in some performative way. we can say that generating without adding anything is a bit cheap, a bit like a doodle compared to a finished opera, but i don't like to divide art from non-art just for the instruments used
I am anticapitalist, I am an engineer working in the field, I am seeing my own, actual 15+ years of pro experience being more and more replaced with AI when it comes to coding. I am seeing that 2024 is going to be the year of AI on robots
This is not hype. This is real, this is here. Capital has nothing to do with it (a lot happens in research labs and open source communities) and actually the capitalist social contract will really show its limit with that. We need to stop being in denial and form proposals for a post-labor society, which I can't imagine being capitalist.
i'm part of tech workers coalition, using ''AI'' hype to leverage some firings of bullshit jobs is just to make shareholders happy and workers scared
i can agree that the technology is here but i've kept using "AI" in quotes because as you also know there is nothing about artificial intelligence, it's very much still a machine learning stage
AI is the capital trend and companies that cannot benefit directly from it are doing the firings to still be nice to the shareholders
let's call it machine learning and let's acknowledge that we already had way a lot of bullshit jobs in society: if being able to fire people keeping the same productivy was a sign of post-labor we've been living signs of it for looooot of times.
and i don't say it's impossible, just saying that post-labor or post-labor just for rich people is really a matter of how we shape society more than how technology evolves under the will of capitalism
i hope i don't come out as harsh, it's late and i'm a bit tired so i may be using a tone i don't want to use, i'm not native in english w.w
Honestly at this point I am kind of happy that even for researchers, the taboo of calling the field "AI" is gone. No, there is actual emergent intelligence displayed in generative models. I wish we could manage to marvel at this for a while outside of all this noise. Will it be enough to reach AGI? At this point no one knows but calling it AI? Yes, there is more than hype to it. It "understands" natural language, for many reasonable and useful definitions of "understand".
Which is why I tire of people who assume technology only evolves under the will of capitalism and fail to acknowledge that most models used today are free and open source. That a lot of the tooling around them is made by the community non-commercially.
Open source is actually a model of organization that I believe has the potential for proposing a viable alternative to capitalism and has proven so by tackling projects that were too large even for big companies.