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Manny Coto, The Showrunner Who Tried To Save 'Star Trek: Enterprise,' Dies
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I still watch enterprise from time to time. Wished there was more. I'm not really getting into the new Trek, and I'm extremely not getting into paying for another streaming service, but that's a different story. Discovery and the constant crying was so annoying I decided to give up on the other stuff. It had really nice moments, but overall it was just meh.
Strange New Worlds is like Old Trek. Highly suggest it even if you have to sail the virtual seas to get it.
I'll check out a trailer. Thanks!
It's closer to Old Trek. But in the last episode of S1
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where they take original TOS dialog for parts and mix it with modern dialog - man you really see the difference. Love it or hate it, the TOS dialog feels a lot more martial and IMO fits way better with having ranks on a ship.There's good stuff in it, but they also seem to really have a problem making any non-quippy character, to the extent that I actually think it affects characterization. To that end, Ortegas still
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isn't that well fleshed out IMHO even with the last episode being 1/3 about her. I think earlier Trek played tricks to make characters feel more different, but those worked.Spock is certainly "in between" The Cage and TOS, but I think they're going to have to re-do something like Kohlinar to explain his change in the last episode of SNW.
It's reasonably good, but significantly different too.
I thought that point about the season finale was the whole point of the episode. Pike and his style weren't right for the situation. He was like a caricature of Picard without the tactical superiority to back it up.
It also might be another reason Enterprise was the ship kept out of the Klingon war.
I don't disagree, and I suppose captains get a LOT of leeway with how they run their ships. What I'm actually talking about is
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the part where Spock has the TOS lines being jarring.I think in that case they let "easter eggs" for fans get in the way of coherently telling the story they wanted to tell. At least with your (and my) take -
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how do you get that Spock? It seems like the divergence would have left Spock more like he is now with Pikes leadership style, vs the apparent changes to TOS with Kirks style.Your spoiler tags are not working correctly on my end, could be connect idk. But its just trying to resemble old trek. I don't think it is trying to be a 1 for 1. I'll take the delivery format over Discovery. We get episodes to focus on each character, we aren't constantly drained by chasing some seasonal baddie. Its nice.
I also suggest Strange New Worlds. It’s the best Trek since TNG (imo). There are certainly some silly parts and some episodes do lean a little more towards comedy then I’d like in my Trek, but even still. It’s good Trek.
@GCanuck @startrekexplained going on the first four S2 episodes, they seem to be following a weird-solid-weird-solid pattern with S2. So, weird one this week.
@startrekexplained agree it hasn’t started as well as S1 but I’m still optimistic, especially if that second episode is anything to go by. Episode 4 was a good one for me too.
It's certainly the best of the live action modern Treks. Lower Decks also works surprisingly well.