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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Does Sunshine/Moonlight still blow Steam Remote Play out of the water or does this bring them up to par?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

My understanding is that sunshine/moonlight has better quality still.

The built-in steam game streaming has better steam UI integration though, and is available without installing any additional software.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've used both to play Helldivers 2 recently and have found Sunshine/moonlight to be superior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just curious, when you do this in HD2, how do you use the mic?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So far, I don't. It doesn't have a hot key configured by default and I just haven't changed it. I tried to assign the rear paddles, but it didn't pick it up because I think the game was emulating an Xbox controller.

But I only really do level 5/6 missions on the deck. I find it a bit too unfamiliar for 7+ missions where I need to communicate well and pull off my shots with better accuracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Oh no doubt, Steam Link is super easy to use. Once quality catches up it seriously might become the Stream Deck by default at home.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What specifically is better? These are just clients for the Streaming that Steam provides, right? They don’t actually swap out the “server” side, right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're completely different implementations of systems that steam video/audio/inputs.

Valve's is pretty buggy but has deep integration with Steam and allow NAT traversal, while Sunshine/Moonlight are way more reliable, have features that reduce latency but are pretty barebones as far as features: they just do streaming with no tight integration with what's being streamed.

And Sunshine is a reverse engineered version of Nvidia's game stream server, since Nvidia sunset Gamestream a few months ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Since Sunshine & Moonlight are open source, I wonder if Valve has considered integrating them. Based on their track record, Valve would likely submit improvements upstream too

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Moonlight is Nvidia game stream so it'll be using the Nvidia server or sunshine which implements the Nvidia game stream protocol for AMD/Intel/Nvidia server hardware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've never been able to get Steam Link to work properly. Always the wrong resolution if I even get a picture at all.

Ideally it would work like a game streaming service where it just renders graphics based on your client display but usually it just mirrors whatever is on the "host" system display and I got tired of trying to make it work properly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I only know it as moonlight (been a while since I used it). What's the Sunshine component?

As an aside, Moonlight was incredible. Used it to play PSO2 on my phone when I was a few hundred miles away visiting a friend.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Moonlight client originally used Nvidia's streaming server. Sunshine is an open source streaming server that moonlight can connect to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, fuck yeah. I remember it using nvidia shield, and I haven't bothered with seeing if it works outside of geforce since I dropped that (fuck geforce lol). Glad to hear there's an open source alternative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It works well! I'm actually using the moonlight client for Xbox so I can play on the couch and it's great.